Current Red Bull Racing

Red Bull Racing

FIA Entry: Red Bull Racing Renault
Car 1: Sebastien Vettel
Car 2: Mark Webber
Engine: Renault V8
Team Owner: Dietrich Mateschitz
Team Principal: Christian Horner
Chief Technical: Office Adrian Newey
Chief Designer: Rob Marshall
Race Engineer Car 1: Guillaume “Rocky” Rocquelin
Race Engineer Car 2: Ciaron Pilbeam

Stats as of end 2010

First Entered 2005
Races Entered 107
Race Wins 15
Pole Positions 20
Fastest Laps 12
Driver World Championships 1
Constructor World Championships 1

Team History

Before Red Bull

In 1997 Paul Stewart, aided by his father Jackie and the Ford Motor Company, made the leap from F3000 to F1 as an entrant. Jonny Herbert won 1 race for the Stewart team before it was sold off to Ford who re-branded the cars as Jaguar.

Ford stuck with it through thick and thin (mainly thin) through to the end of 2004 before selling the team to Dietrich Mateschitz, who owns the Red Bull drinks brand, for $1 on the understanding he invested $400 million over 3 years

Red Bull Racing

With Christian Horner installed as team principal, McLaren refugee David Coulthard and Christian Klien as the drivers Red Bull went racing. Their first season was certainly more successful than Jaguar had managed, even with the same Cosworth power plant, with Coulthard managing a 4th place at the European Grand Prix and the team finishing 7th in the Constructors Championship.

Adrian Newey joined from McLaren as chief designer for 2006 and Red Bull swapped to Ferrari engines. Coulthard managed a podium at his "home" race in Monaco prompting Christian Horner to jump naked, other than wearing a red cape, into a swimming pool.

Christian Klien, who shared the car with Vitantonio Liuzzi in 2005 and Robert Doornbos in 2006, departed the team for 2007 and was replaced by Mark Webber. The RB3 was the first full "Newey" car and was coupled with a Renault motor. The car was very unreliable, suffering from a variety of different problems but Webber managed a podium at the European Grand Prix and the team finished 5th in the WCC.

Retaining the same engine and drivers for 2008 Red Bull slipped back to 7th in the WCC and again only managed a single podium, for Coulthard in Canada, but the reliability issues which plagued the car the previous season were mainly resolved.

2009 was Red Bull's break through year. With Coulthard having retired Webber was joined by Red Bull junior driver Sebastien Vettel. The new rules allowed Newey to design a car which challenged for both the Drivers and Constructors Championship. Webber won 2 races, Vettel 4 and the team climbed to 2nd in WCC taking 3 pole positions en-route.

In 2010 Red Bull justified Mateschitz's investment winning the Constructors title and Vettel the Drivers Championship. They won 9 races through the season, 5 for Vettel and 4 for Webber and took 10 poles. Webber led the title race for much of the season but it was the 23 year old Vettel who stole the title in the last race of the season and became the youngest Champion as a result.

2011 sees the team retain the same driver line up as 2010 and continue with Renault engine power in the new RB7 car.
 
Since you mention top 8, I assume you rank him on a different level than those 8.
Switching around those behind Vettel, Alonso and Hamilton, sure, but to say Webber is an entirely different level lower from 5 other drivers? Hardly giving credit.
 
I'm confused why these comments aren't in either the Webber or Button threads, come to think of it, why haven't you made a Webber v Button thread?
 
This is the Red Bull thread. The original discussion was about Red Bull designing the car around Vettel and thus it expanded to the last page or so.

Maybe you lost the flow when google translate put it into welsh for you? ;-)
 
a) Welsh isn't a race its a nationality

b) Some of my best friends are Welsh ;-)

c) Can you please save all comments about racists for the 'I think your a racist thread' or create one. This thread is about Red Bull :-P
 
For Webber - Red Bull was his last chance saloon to be in a front runner...he kept making noises that with Williams he was going to be a front runner in 2005 and spent more time banging wheels and whingeing

Caught in the midst of Williams - BMW tug of war he decided to be loyal to Williams but unfortunately 2006 the car was a dog and his career stalled

It was somewhat rescued by his manager Flavio Briatore who manage to negotiate a deal with him at Red Bull who had decided to switch to Renault engines

Webber said he will listen to Flav from now on after he rejected joining Renault in favour of Williams.

He got the Red Bull drive at the right time because their philosophy was to field young drivers ... originally it was meant to be Klein ,Liuzzi. and Speed but none of them impressed enough

and it was felt maybe another experienced racer was needed to keep the team moving forward

Webber has been in a position to benefit.. i
 
Webber's could not be more perfect

2008 DC has awful season getting caught up in numerous accidents and finally Red Bull have found their driver from the young driver programme - Vettel who was clearly been touted for promotion. DC must have been getting whispers within the team that they desperately wanted to promote someone from Toro Rosso finally

Webber has a more solid season being a regular points scorer and managed to keep his seat

Are they any better drivers at Red Bull / Toro Rosso than Webber - NO but then that is not helped when Red Bull have reduced funding to Toro Rosso who can;t even use their own chassis now that Vettel was able to so effectively
 
teabagyokel

I did because he suddenly dropped off and had a series of poor races and miles off the pace - he did not get on the podium until Korea whilst Alonso was stretching his lead

Suddenly no one was talking about Webber being a title challenger
 
siffert_fan......I don't think anyone is criticizing Red Bull for developing their car around Vettel, we're just stating it as a fact and making the point that it impacts on Webbers chance to compete at his best on some circuits. Of course all teams should lean towards their top driver when developing their car.
 
teabagyokel

Indeed but then there are other drivers who are the same or nothing spectacular like Heidfeld who keep popping up in the points and then makes you wonder where were they in the race

I think Webber's poor performances tends to go unnoticed because his teammate is further ahead by miles
 
Fair crack of the whip Brogan ... how else can they pay for Mark Webber's one year deals ... :bored: and Christian Horners ankle surgeries...

The only Red Bull VIP experience I would be interested in would be the Valencia rooftop pool party event... and I would arrange my own travel...;)
 
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