Current Lewis Hamilton

A place to put all the posts from all the other threads primarily but love him or hate him, and even for the indifferent amongst us this is the place to discuss the marmite that is Lewis Hamilton, to learn a thing or two about his rise, talk about those controversial, genius or mad moments and something that i am bemused by, the recent articles that suggest something quite different to my perception of what's going on. Any experiences of meeting LH?

Brundle had to write a Lewis Hamilton article recently and in my tweets (which were probably ignored) I asked him to talk about LH the driver not LH the personality. It seems that you can't have one without the other.

So as a starter for ten, here is a fairly recent LH article. Posts should not be limited to this link but it can get some discussion going. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13755883.stm

The only banned topic as it is clearly ridiculous involves these four things "Glock" "2008" "Brazil" "conspiracy"

 

[ZakspeedYakspeed]

could do with a title evener like this one from 2010....

 

[Josh]

Is that taking into account the change in the points system?

No, if the points had always been the same as they are now, Button would have 1662 points and Hamilton would have 1415 points.

 

[RasputinLives]

So that makes Button the better driver then Josh?

*runs away giggling*

 

[gethinceri]

Thank christ someone's at last proved it.

 

[Mephistopheles]

Beyond a doubt Geth, beyond a doubt mate....

But shouldn't that be "Proven."?

 

[F1Yorkshire]

What does that work out in points per race? Just for equality how many points has Button earned in a competitive car compared to Hamilton in a competitive car. The tricky part is determining which of Buttons cars were deemed competitive. The earth car clearly isn't one but what about the Honda which he scored his 1st win with?

Maybe we need a Hamilton v Button thread?

 

[Hamberg]

If Button was as good as Hamilton in the lower formula he would have started his team in a top team. Hamilton didn't luck into that seat he earned it by being awesome.

 

[RasputinLives]

If Button was as good as Hamilton in the lower formula he would have started his team in a top team. Hamilton didn't luck into that seat he earned it by being awesome.

Button's junior career record was better than Hamiltons. Lewis has openly said Jenson's records were the ones he was trying to equal in Karting as he was the big name. Jenson didn't get much of a junior career because his rep was so big he was fast tracked into F1.

I don't want to start the whole Jenson/Lewis thing but that comments just silly.

 

[Fenderman]

From Formula 1 statistic site. I tried to paste a link but it won't work!

Draw your own conclusions

 

[The Pits]

I already have:

http://cliptheapex.com/threads/jenson-button-vs-lewis-hamilton.4734/page-128#post-171190

 

[Hamberg]

RasputinLives I was just joining in the "it can't be measured due to so many variables" and throwing in another ludicrous non point!

 

[downforce]

We really need to see them in the same team to make conclusions

 

[KekeTheKing]

I'm not getting carried away with the Hungary win in terms of a real title chance, but it does signal that there may be some more good races to come, mainly Singapore and Abu Dhabi. Lewis goes well at both those circuits and I feel the Mercedes chassis is well suited for them too.

Hungary is a bit like Monaco in that there really isn't anything extraordinarily high speed that would cause the tire issues Merc have combated for years. Plus Lewis is a Hungaroring master. He went out and snatched that victory.

 

[Jos the Boss]

In qualifying, Hamilton was the fourth fastest through the trap at 299km/h – compared to Vettel in 21st place with 293.5km/h.

In the race, Hamilton clocked a fastest speed of 304.9km/h, second only to team-mate Nico Rosberg. Crucially, that was around 10km/h faster than the Red Bulls – Vettel was 294.8km/h and Webber 293.7km/h – and just less than 5km/h faster than Jenson Button’s 299.2km/h.

 

[Lewywo4]

I'm not getting carried away with the Hungary win in terms of a real title chance, but it does signal that there may be some more good races to come, mainly Singapore and Abu Dhabi. Lewis goes well at both those circuits and I feel the Mercedes chassis is well suited for them too..

If Mercedes may have answered some of their problems regarding tire degradation at Hungary, which can be carried forward to Spa, and other fast circuits. Lewis, I believe has a reasonable chance of maybe securing another Victory at Spa.

 

[Jos the Boss]

There are many Lewis circuits coming up, Spa, Monza at times, Singapore, Abu Dhabi and he hasn't been bad at USA and Brazil! I would like to see if he can break his duck at Suzuka

 

[downforce]

Brazil and Suzuka rarely go well for him, Monza is also something of a bogey track in spite of his win. India is questionable as well.

Spa, Singapore, Abu Dhabi and USA however he should be a contender for the win, has won them all before and as far as I'm concerned he won Spa twice

 

[Jos the Boss]

At Suzuka he had one podium in '09 and since then he only finishes fifth, Brazil is two retirements, seventh, fifth and third, almost a Senna like jinx!

Random fact Lewis is the first driver of black heritage to win a major race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway in any discipline!

 

[teabagyokel]

SPA - One win for Vettel, 1.5 wins for Hamilton . If Lotus can get to the pace, you'd expect Raikkonen to win.
MONZA - Vettel won twice, Hamilton once, Raikkonen never. Often and oddity, and Ferrari often show disproportionately well.
SINGAPORE - Only won by Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso. Hamilton should have won last year, Mercedes won both the tight 'n' twisty races so far. Not a Raikkonen circuit...
YEONGAM - Won by Vettel and Alonso, although Hamilton broke the Red Bull pole-opoly in 2011. Should have been 3/3 for the Vet.
SUZUKA - 4 poles for Vettel, 3 wins and one title. VETTEL.
INDIA - Vettel central.
ABU DHABI - Hamilton and Vettel demons on this circuit, just don't get pole!
AUSTIN - Looks like a Hamilton circuit from last year.
INTERLAGOS - Hamilton's good days are good (2009) or unlucky (2007, 2012). His bad days come with a silver lining (2008)... Home of the underdog; Hamilton, Vettel, Raikkonen and Alonso have only 2 wins combined!

 

[downforce]

Interlagos seems like Hulkenburg territory 2010 and 2012