RickD said:
jenov2003 said:
Hi Rick
Completely disagree - Massa is not a "dirty" fighter and and am more of the opinion that Hamilton is a bad loser. It was, indeed, a racing incident despite the fact that Massa was penalised for it.
Hamilton's claims are more to do with his state of mind than any actuality - IMO Lewis will lose this WDC, the same as last year. He is a stunning racer, but at the moment only a "boy racer".
Sorry Jen, thats the way I do see it, Massa has certainly learned from the best though.
LH is a 'boy racer', aren't they all??? Any that aren't really shouldn't be in an F1 car as that is basically what they do.
As for LH being a bad loser, when your main rival damages your car by going off the circiut and then crashing into you, I think he has a right to be slightly annoyed by the stewards descisions and the fact that the person who took you out broke the rules 3 times in one race and got away with it with only a very minor punishment for one of the infrigements.
I'm coming from a completely different angle, because I believe in racing without the steward's interference. I actually think that all of those penalties were unnecessary and ill-conceived and to the detriment of the race and the spectacle.
Yes, they should all be racers, but not necassarily "boy racers" - there has to be a degree of maturity if you take the WDC and WCC seriously. This is were LH falls down. He is, undoubtedly, a very gifted racer but incapable of seeing "the bigger picture" (how I hate such modern speak) and despite his protestations that he is there to garner points (for himself and his team), he can not stop himself from jeopardising everything that he claims to hold dear by going for the "win".
Equally, I think it an unnecessary slur on Massa's intentions - by your estimation, Massa was just being a boy racer and, as such should be applauded for several brave moves. If your assumption is true, please explain what he would gain from possibly crippling himself. At this late stage, the then (Kubica is now an option) two main contenders just wanted to finish the race in the points
Japan was racing at it's best - for a number of years - only spoilt by the stewards.
Just so's we know - I'm an Alonso fan and have no team allegiances (much to my son-in-laws chagrin).
But my greatest wish is that we see racing, not this PC cack.