Grand Prix 2014 Singapore Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

So the F1 circus rolls into Singapore and pitches its big top tent for the 7th time in the region for F1’s original (and best) night race. It was seen as a bit of a gimmick when it was brought in but I have to say I’ve always enjoyed the spectacle of the cars under the lights and it works especially well with imagery of the super connecting highways running round the track and the bright lights from the skyscrapers and hotels. Whilst the track lay out could be better it has not left us with a shortage in excitement over the years and whether it be Alonso and Vettel going the whole Grand Prix nose to bumper, Hamilton and Webber tangling after the safety car or, of course, Alonso’s infamous Piquet Jr assisted win at the first race, we’ve never been short of things to talk about.

Who has form here? Well the aforementioned Alonso has always gone well here (although I doubt we’ll hear him brag about the 2008 race) and the circuit is a bit of a car leveller so I expect him to have a great race.

Singapore has always represented the start of Vettel’s purple patch of form in previous season so you would also expect him to have a good showing, whether that showing will be as good as his team mate Ricciardo remains to be seen. Where the championship challenge is concerned Nico Rosberg has always looked good around Singapore and came very close to winning it twice in a Williams. Rosberg would have won the second time if not for a silly error crossing the pit lane line. Hamilton meanwhile has always been quick here but has constantly appeared to find trouble around the track and not pull off the result he looked set to get. One driver who has never had a good time around this track is Kimi Raikonnen. Whether that’s due to too many Singapore slings who knows but its something he really needs to turn round with the way his current season has been going
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Singapore is also notorious as a race of attrition with the tight street circuit nature not leaving much room for error and therefore the race racks up the number of retirements from a crash situation as well as the number of safety cars. This could of course leave the door open for the teams at the back to pick some points up. The safe bet on that would be Bianchi bringing the Marussia home for a good result but the Sauber has been looking a little bit more steady of late and they really need to be if they don’t want the embarrassment of finishing behind Marussia in the constructors championship this season . The problem for Sauber is though that you’d bet pretty heavily on both their drivers actually being the ones to get involved in the accident. Romain Grosjean might certainly be a good bet to add to his points tally whilst team mate Maldonado might not look such a good prospect. Its hard to predict whether Caterham will be around for the points as its hard to predict who will be driving for them. Everyone who gets in the car appears to be quicker than Ericson so I guess it depends on who they put in and their form. If its Roberto Merhi you’d be hard pushed to think a rookie would make the full distance without an error.

The main midfield battle at the minute appears to be Mclaren and Force India with Mclaren on the way up and Force India on the way down. Perez had a great race at Monza but is known to get in the wars around Singapore and Hulkenberg has been strangely subdued in the last few races. Button is usually good around street circuits so should show well here and his rookie teammate is looking increasingly quicker at the moment and would have scored good results but for 2 penalties in the last two races (one of them maybe fair enough and one of them just stupid). I hope this doesn’t put KMag off his defensive driving style as its exciting to watch and should work well around this track even though he’s never raced here before. Another driver who hasn’t driven round here before is Kvyat, but judging on the speed he managed to catch these guys at Monza he should be in the mix with them. He will need new overalls after the brakes failing him at turn one with two laps to go in Italy.

For me Singapore is the Asian Monaco and a very shiny jewel in the F1 crown but I do understand there are others who have a different view on that. Never the less I’m sure we are all looking forward to what should be the next instalment in the Hamilton/Rosberg title scrap.
 
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That's all very interesting but probably meaningless in some cases such as Rosberg and Button's lap times, Rosberg because well enough said and Jenson because he didn't get to set a lap on low fuel max engine mode and super soft tyres and this probably relates to other drivers as with them being on different strategies and stuff..
 
Whatever you say but Kmag destroyed his tyres meaning he had to change from a two stop strategy to a three stop strategy.

Eric Boullier, McLaren racing director
"Jenson, who was driving exceptionally well in seventh place, cleverly optimising a tricky two-stop strategy, to be forced to retire with power box failure was an especially bitter blow.

And

Eric Boullier, McLaren racing director
"Kevin, his first stint was satisfactory, but in stint two he began to experience tyre degradation to a greater degree than we'd predicted, forcing us to convert his strategy from a two-stopper to a three-stopper.

Like I said.


Jenson Button, DNF
"I was cueing things up for the end of the grand prix: I'd been looking after the tyres for the whole stint, and I knew the last five laps were when things were going to get tricky for Valtteri ahead of me.

But whatever you say KekeTheKing is obviously the truth of the matter..
 
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Yeah, I know, I checked. In 2013 Rosberg had three mechanical DNF, Hamilton 2.
And I said that you doesn't accurate
Firstly, officially Rosberg has 3 DNF, and Hamilton 1 DNF in the 2013.
Second, Hamilton has many other technical problem in 2013.
Loss of 5 positions due to change the transmission in Bahrain.
Exploded wheel when Hamilton had lead in the UK.
Loss positions due to radio communications problem and delay with a stop after a slow puncture in Italy.
I'm not talking about regular the team errors on the pits and with tactics.

With "3-2 DNF in the 2013" you are not accuracy
 
There's been some crazy figures thrown around about the Mercedes advantage after the SC. 3-4 seconds a lap and whatnot. Here are the actual figures from the Hamilton - Vettel race. Lewis was of course on a 4 race lap old set of Super Softs which was generally regarded as being 2 seconds quicker all weekend.

HamVetComp.jpg


Lap Difference
38: -2.37
39: -2.55
40: -1.77
41: -2.1
42: -1.87
43: -1.97
44: -1.76
45: -2.06
46: -1.4
47: -1.62
48: -.76
49: -1.58
50: -1.28
51: -1.26

So Hamilton pulled away from Vettel at an average of 1.739 seconds a lap during that stint.




With Ricciardo's battery issue I'm surprised that Alonso couldn't get by. And apparently McLaren disapprove of the way that Red Bull instructed Daniel to deal with it.
 
Nice one KekeTheKing . I think the confusion comes from the slightly misleading SkyF1 commentary. Throughout the stint they constantly referred to the three or four seconds a lap that Hamilton needed to make over the Vettel, Ricciardo, Alonso pack as whole - that's not the best way to describe it but I trust you get my drift.

I found myself shouting at them at the time: "STFU you numpties he's doing Vettel by a couple of seconds!" and "He only needs 20 seconds and he'll eat him for breakfast on new boots!" That was the sum total of excitement I exhibited in the whole race so no chance of beating Crofty for the prize for "Most Over-excited Reaction". :crazy:

NB: From his pace on the others I thought it was a foregone conclusion that pitting with around 20 - 21 sec's on Vettel he would only lose a place to him and at worst a place to Ricciardo.
 
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I haven't watched the Sky broadcast yet, as I was out of the house and forced to watch NBCsports. The Safety Car worked out well for them though as they crammed in about 8 ad breaks. I'm eager to re-live it with fellow member Crofty today now though! :D
 
I think he was more or less in cruise mode at that time.

As soon as he got past Vettel and pulled a few seconds gap, there was no point in blatting around flat out for the remaining laps.

I read some comments about how rash Hamilton had been in getting past Vettel and should have taken his time.
What wasn't really mentioned though was that if another SC had been deployed to the end of the race, that was his chance gone.
For that reason, he was right to get past as soon as he did.
 
What wasn't really mentioned though was that if another SC had been deployed to the end of the race, that was his chance gone.
For that reason, he was right to get past as soon as he did.

Indeed, Button was sitting on the side of the track just at that moment, there could have been real concern that could happen and we'd be all getting used to Winfinger again.
 
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