Grand Prix 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Fenderman

Rooters Reporter
Indeed. A lot of opinion cite his behaviour as a sign of how ruthless he is as if that is a good thing. Personally, I see it as sheer arrogance. His expression in the press conference photo used in the caption competition is one of utter distain and arrogance to everyone in that room - and that is where he is supposed to be apologising. As I've often said, I'm not a fan of any particular driver since they've all got to be pretty damn good to make it into F1. However, I lost a shed load of respect for that bloke on Sunday so I can't deny being a anti-fan of at least one F1 driver.
 

no-FIAt-please

Champion Elect
Premium Contributor
I find it ridiculous that Vettel claimed it was an accident. He also said if he could change it he would, well he had a few laps to do that didn't he.

Some people don't mind what Vettel did. But I think they're mistaken, they think he outraced Webber to overtake him, while actually Vettel could only close on Webber when the Australian had his engine turned down, in a state of non-defence. It wasn't anything to do with being faster. Just pointing out a fact that I feel some have missed.
 

Kewee

Race Winner
The headline for Autosports opinion piece. 'Vettel, The monster Red Bull created'

I can't help wondering how Vettel feels going from being the sports golden boy to reading a headline like that in one of the sports most respected publications. I struggle to find an ounce of sympathy though, he just doesn't deserve it.
 

no-FIAt-please

Champion Elect
Premium Contributor
This will soon be forgotten. Previous drivers have done worse. Senna/Schumacher crasing into drivers and Alonso holding his own team to randsom over spy-gate. A lot worse F1 crimes IMO.

It was a petulant and stupid act. Nothing more, the significance it bears though is that Vettel feels he can push the team around and he might have just pushed Webber one step too far.
 

ZakspeedYakspeed

NeverUnderestimateThePredictabilityOfStupidity
Premium Contributor
I read that article today... Well worth the one off shot if you don't have an autosport sub....
 

Il_leone

Champion Elect
Kewee

It is the same problem Mclaren have had with Hamilton ... simply spoling them by giving them a quick car straight away and they don;t know how to lose or take it like a man

On Mclaren's defence they recognised that Lewis did not know how to deal with a car that is not competitive in 2009 and made sure future drivers learn their career in not so competitive cars in junior formula

Seb has been spoiled to the point he feels he is untouchable because someone hire up will look after him. He looked like a right idiot after the race when everyone's faces was a different expression
 

Il_leone

Champion Elect
no-FIAt-please

That depends in the manner of the outcome this season like Gary Anderson said if Vettel wins by less than 8pts everyone will look at him disgustingly.. funny how they were very critical of Alonso in 2010 benefitting from a team order and here Seb ignores his team order
 

ExtremeNinja

Karting amateur
Contributor
I heard Horner likened to Frankenstein who created a monster that he could no longer control. That was from one of the better British tabloids.
 

Kewee

Race Winner
This will soon be forgotten. Previous drivers have done worse. Senna/Schumacher crasing into drivers and Alonso holding his own team to randsom over spy-gate. A lot worse F1 crimes IMO.

It was a petulant and stupid act. Nothing more, the significance it bears though is that Vettel feels he can push the team around and he might have just pushed Webber one step too far.
I tend to disagree. In Schumacher's case he may have had numerous run-ins with other drivers, but he always showed respect to his teammate. After following Senna's career and at times apportioning blame to him rather than Prost my opinion changed completely after seeing the movie 'Senna' twice, in fact three times. In my opinion he had more integrity than Vettel has in his little finger. Regarding Alonso I only judge him on-track. The reason for that is his falling out with McLaren happened partly in private and we have only ever fully heard from one side and Alonso is unlikely to change that. From the moment he leaves the pits he has always repspected his fellow competitors and has never endangered another driver, which is why the other drivers rate him so highly.
 

no-FIAt-please

Champion Elect
Premium Contributor
I seem to remember Alonso brake testing Coulthard... but this isn't the correct place for a discussion about Alonso so I won't comment on him here again.
 

Kewee

Race Winner
Start a new thread if you like no-FIAt-please but I doubt many will have memories that long and brake testing is one of those accusations that is more often than not denied and difficult to prove without any doubt.
 
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