Although this is very off topic, you say that Grosjean is the one to blame and he veered wildly at the start, it was infact Alonso that veered into Alonso with Grosjean keeping his car straight after Grosjean made his intial move.I think Grosjean has no one to blame but himself. He moved to cover but Alonso had already occupied the spot after spotting Hamilton’s poor start. He then had the option of getting off the throttle because you can’t veer across wildly like that at the start of a race and not expect to head for an early shower. He got greedy and paid the price for the third time this season.
Although this is very off topic, you say that Grosjean is the one to blame and he veered wildly at the start, it was infact Alonso that veered into Alonso with Grosjean keeping his car straight after Grosjean made his intial move.
Watch from 0.03 - 0.06s, it was Alonso's car that moved into Grosjean's not the other way around.
That would be true if it were not for the fact that Lewis got on the radio and asked the team what happened to my start I went nowhere so obviously he felt his start was poor and he was blaming the team for it, which brings back to the clutch settings situation..Sorry but still think Lewis has had far worse starts this season. I think what you're looking at in that picture is both Merc and Alonso having quick starts and people going defensive. Lets rememebr Rosberg, Schumie and Alonso have all been getting flyers this season.
I just think his problem at the start have been exaggerated as I don't think it would have made any difference to his race whatsoever.
It was clear from the sky pad that Alonso went left due to Hamilton's bad start, to be honest I don't think he had any choice this pushed Romain left and so squeezed a very fast starting Schumacher into the wall.It's not clear cut and too far back looking at it from Vettel's car to pass accurate judgement. Shumi's on board footage paints a different picture but as you say it's off topic so we leave it here.
Viscount the reason I'm arguing that it wasn't too bad a start is because of this stuffI don't really think it's being exaggerated, no-one's saying he would have won the race with a better start and neither did he lose any positions. Just acknowledging the fact that it was a slow start.
Basically the brigade that will come out and blame Mclaren making mistakes for Lewis not winning or finishing higher up where really he was just outpaced and probably outperformed by the guys that finished in front of him. Whether that was Lewis or the car we don't know but the whole "Mclaren told him to change his clutch settings and that led to a bad start that ruined his race" line thats being suggested is pure nonesense IMHO.I don't understand what the issue is in discussing LHs bad start. He said it was a bad start, it looked like a bad start, ergo it probably was a bad start. Was it driver error or clutch settings
I don't think we need to think too hard for that answer
Did it mess his race up, only LH can say what the consequences were, I think he did
Lewis Hamilton started the race third. He was still third into the first corner. Had he got a better start, would he have finished any further up the field? Probably not - as he would STILL have been third into the first corner as Rosberg and Webber both made good starts! The only difference is that Grosjean might not have been eliminated, which would have meant that Kobayashi wasn't launched into Button, meaning that Button wouldn't have spent all race behind Kovalainen.Basically the brigade that will come out and blame Mclaren making mistakes for Lewis not winning or finishing higher up..
JB started 12th Kovalainen started 17th. Yes, he had a bad qualifying, but had it not been for the Grosjean accident, there is no way that Kovalainen would have been ahead of Button into turn 1. Yes, it is true that if you have a bad qualifying, then you're more likely to get caught up in someone else's problem, but trying to deny that circumstances played a part is just trying to wind people up. - or was that what you were trying to achieve?I don't think we can say circumstances at the start caused Button to be stuck behind Kov
His getting out qualified by 13 guys caused that