Grand Prix 2012 Monaco Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

For the first time in 3 decades there have been 5 different winners in 5 races and it's not exactly been the status quo winning races as not many people would have had Rosberg and Maldanado winning this early in the season and after Australia not many people would have bet on Alonso winning before the start of the European season. This is also when drivers like Hamilton, Webber, Raikkonnen and Schumacher havent won this season and the way things are going there could be 8 winners after 8 races which could almost be unprecedented.

Indeed, one thing that 2012 has shown is that no one team has been consistently fighting for the win at all five 5 races, while Lotus have possibly had the most consistent pace of the top teams, problems in the first two races meant they were unable to be competing for the win while Kimi might have been unlucky to not come away with at least one win in Bahrain and Barcelona where strategy troubles robbed him the top step but two podiums have shown that he still has the pace despite being away from the sport for 2 years.

The big surprise of the weekend was a first victory for Maldonado and a first victory for Williams since the 2004 Brazilian Grand Prix, a win which was merited with no outside help apart from the disqualification of Hamilton from qualifying and the effect of this is unknown as to how the race would have been different but in the race Pastor drove the wheels off the car and did extremely well to keep a rejuvenated Fernando Alonso behind in an updated Ferrari on home soil. Considering Ferrari's early season struggles, for Alonso to be joint leading the Championship with Vettel is no mean feat at all.

The field is very tightly packed as well with the top 7 drivers being separated by 20 points, this time last year it was nearly 100 with Vettel claiming 4 of the first 5 races. This year that is not the case and for once Barcelona served up a classic which in my opinion was the best race of the season, finally there was close racing from 1st down to last with the outcome not being decided until the last few laps.

Going into Monaco there is no point prediction what the running order will be as the likelihood is it'll change again, for all we know the Force India's could suddenly be at the front and Lotus might only be fighting for points, it certainly makes for extremely fascinating viewing as no-one is dominating the Championship, in the city of the high rollers and casinos, it remains who will strike lucky in Monte Carlo and claim the big win, it will certainly not be boring, after all, if even Barcelona can provide an entertaining race, surely most places can (with the exception of Valencia!)
 
I have to say, there may well be some merit to maldonado's explanation that he simply had cold-ish tyres... The back end does seem to step out a little on him when he's on the throttle... Still, I agree that perez should have been way out of the way... This seems to me to be a case of - since it's happened before, he must be guilty! I would be tempted to give a certain amount of benefit of the doubt...
 
Courtesy of Will Buxton on Twitter, this is what the Monaco track looks like the night before the race - these people are actually on the circuit between the swimming pool and Rascasse.

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Just hope none of those chaps chunder - vomit is extremely dangerous and slippery! :)
 
Sorry to be pedantic but Perez had put himself well out of the way to let Maldonado pass. The natural racing line through that corner is to keep over to the left and then to take the apex as the curve tightens. If Perez had been to the left he would have been on the natural racing line. The little red and white kerb on the apex is a clue.

Until I watched a replay I was giving Maldonado the benefit of the doubt but it is somewhat unusual to say the least for a car to be unsettled to any great extent through that corner. Had the car been set up badly enough for that to happen his times throughout the weekend would have somewhat poorer, methinks.
 
I have just seen that video for the first time, that is why I haven't commented it.

Don't you think that some of you are overreacting? I am amazed it was such a minor incident! the way some people have been talking on here I thought he had used his car as a torpedo and then went on to kill someone's dog with a shovel! Maldonado may have been in the wrong (Slightly.) but there was loads of room for Perez to let Maldonaldo get by without incident, and yet he chose to hang around on the racing line.

Blimey I've seen far worse things happen at an old ladies tea party..

Certainly not worth a ten place penalty, five at the most and a warning would have been sufficient.

Sometimes the stuff I read on here beggars belief, some people want Maldonado hung drawn and quartered for a minor shunt and yet those same people will defend a certain driver to the hilt no matter what he does.

unbelievable.

I'm off to post something on the rant thread about hypocrisy..

Absolutey agree. The definition of a non incident. As a Jenson fan you might not agree with this, but I doubt someone with Button's reputation would get such a harsh penalty and widespread condemnation. No objectivity from the stewards or fans on this one in my opinion.
 
I didn't say it wasn't Maldonado's fault I just said that it was a misjudgement yet some people on here are portraying him as some kind of insane criminal who should be shot at dawn...

Sod it I've had enough of this subject now..
 
What's wrong with that? A driver that blatantly breaks the rules should definitely get a harsher penalty than one that simply misjudged the situation..

Maldonado can't control his temper, he was a loose cannon in the lower formulae and he still is. The move on Perez was quite obviously deliberate and dangerous, just like his move on Hamilton at Spa last year, the man has form in this area, and he will get his just returns as the stewards get ever tougher with him.
 
I believe you are correct EvilWhippet some drivers do attract harsher penalties because of their past history. sometimes this is justified and sometimes it is not and in this case it was not justified IMO.

I also believe that Schumi's 5 place grid penalty was not justified at all, but his history made it what it is..
 
Also, if it was this incident which caused perez's accident, then sauber have no-one to blame but themselves! Williams managed to replace all four corners of the car, so sauber had plenty of time to strip down the front left and check there was no damage... Certainly, they'd have been criminally irresponsible not to have checked the car thoroughly after an impact with another car!
 
As I was watching the Maldonado incident, it looked to me and my untrained eye that he turned in exceptionally early, with no need for him to do so.

The position that other drivers would not be penalised, I am not sure is relevant, as I cannot recall another driver doing the same thing, except in touring cars.

My opinion is that it looked to me like he did it on purpose, likewise the incident in Spa, as such, I do not feel that the penalty is too harsh, as there is no place for that behaviour in any form of motorsport.

Just my opinion mind.
 
The problem with that analysis ACP2010 is I don't go along with DC's view that it was Maldonado's temper that caused the incident in fact I believe that DC talks shit 90% (He's probably been hanging round with EJ for too long.) of the time, how the hell would he know what was going on in Maldonado's head at the time is he phycic,and even if he thinks he is it doesn't matter because I'm not gullible enough to believe in them..
 
Looked more like a misjudgment to me. Why on earth would you intentionally run over another cars wheel when the outcome could turn you upside-down. Vettel did the same thing in Malaysia. Turned in on Karthakenyan before he had cleared him yet it was Karthakenyan who was penalized. Admittedly Maldonado's move was a little more clumsy but other than that I don't see a huge difference.
 
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