Grand Prix 2012 Japanese Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Traditonally the title decider but now earlier on the calendar, the F1 circus rolls into Japan with the championship finely poised with Vettel closing in on Alonso despite a setback in Monza. At the moment it's a two horse race with the German and the Spaniard but don't count out Raikkonen and Hamilton just yet, The Finn's incredible consistency has meant he's third in the championship and will be there or thereabouts at the end, particularly if the updates that Lotus are bringing to Japan benefit. Hamilton is in one of the fastest cars on the grid (if not the quickest) and was robbed off a probably win (certainly at least second) in Singapore with gearbox problems and the loss of 25 points has threatened to derail his championship. With 6 races to go he's 50 points behind Alonso. The only benefit for Hamilton, and indeed Raikkonen and Vettel is that Alonso isn't in the fastest car. The only reason that Alonso has been on the podium in recent races is from DNF's from other drivers and also the sheer skill of the Spaniard to drag an average car to places it shouldn't be and that is why he's top of the championship with a reasonable margain, but it's certainly not comfortable and I expect the title to go to the final race in Brazil.

In Singapore, McLaren and Red Bull were the class of the field and I think this will continue in Japan where both teams have been traditionally strong in recent years with Red Bull winning in 2009 and 2010 and McLaren in 2011 with Hamilton taking a podium in 2009. The worrying thing for Ferrari is the hit and miss pace of Sauber and Williams as Perez took 3 points off Alonso in Monza and Maldonado could have taken the final podium place until he had to retire in what was his best drive since Spain. What's interesting also is that with the 4 drivers going for the championship, they are all from different teams and how the 'other' drivers do (Webber, Massa, Button, Grosjean) do will have a significant impact on the championship. Romain Grosjean has already managed that when he took out Hamilton and Alonso at the first corner in Belgium, this enabled Vettel to close 18 points on Alonso, something that is unlikely to happen again this season (such a big swing anyway, unless there are more DNF's).

Races in Suzuka have generally been sunny and dry, but in 2004 and 2010 qualifying was held on Sunday morning due to conditions the day before so rain isn't an impossibility although the last wet race at Suzuka was in 1995 with the last wet race of any kind in Japan being in 2007 with the downpours at Fuji which provided a classic race in the torrential rain. Ferrari will be praying for rain as generally this season it's where they've been able to maximise their car as 2 of Alonso's 3 wins have come in rain affected weekends in Malaysia and Germany. Considering the amount of wet practices/qualifying we've had this season, there hasn't been that many wet races with only Malaysia being wet (not including Monaco as it was still too dry for intermediates at the end of the race).

The Japan/Korea double header will have a big say in the title fight if nothing else than to decide if it's going to be a 2 horse fight or a 3/4 way fight. Certainly Hamilton can't afford any more DNF's and Raikkonen needs to win at some point, although a DNF or a low points score for Alonso would blow the championship wide open and this would play into the hands of Vettel who in my opinion is the favourite for the title at the moment unless Ferrari can find more pace in that Ferrari as Vettel is roughly only one wins worth of points from Alonso and he has the car and the speed to compete for the win at all remaining races. But then I think him and Hamilton are the only two capable of that, the big difference is is that Hamilton is a further 30 points down the road, it's superbly poised, a lot better than this time 12 months ago when the Championship was all but over with Vettel leading by over 100 points

Suzuka circuit write up - http://cliptheapex.com/pages/suzuka-international-racing-course/
 
Ummm, no they wouldn't.

Minimum weight only comes into effect for drivers which don't weigh much; there is no maximum weight limit.
 
In case any of you were wondering what the raised digit celebration from Sebastien Vettel, I referred to a few posts ago, looked like:

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Thank you Daily Torygraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...her-blow-as-Sebastian-Vettel-takes-pole.html#
 
Great result for Massa and Koby, both hanging on to their seat with their finger nails. Have to say Vettel now looks favourite for WDC unless the other teams can find something else illegal on the red bull LOL
 
As FB mentioned in the chat and I checked the FIA live timing it looks like Vettel got the grand chelem.- fastest lap on lap 52/53

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It's now Vettel's title to lose in my opinion, Alonso's DNF could well be fatal for him given the lack of performance of the Ferrari, particularly when compared to the Red Bull. Raikkonen and Hamilton's chances shrunk a bit I feel even though they closed the gap to Alonso as neither took full advantage of the DNF as much as Vettel did
 
Another good race from Massa, the only way he could have driven a better race for the team was to have won. With Vettel in that Red Bull there was never any chaqnce of that.

With each race Massa looks more likely to keep his seat.
 
It's a shame to see the championship slipping away from Alonso through no fault of his own. He's lost a 40 point lead thanks to Lotus drivers. First taken out at Spa by Grosjean, then his qualifying spoiled by Raikkonen at Suzuka and then a rear puncture thanks also to Raikkonen in the first corner. He's been faultless all season and doesn't deserve to loose the title this way. Grosjean's turned into a first lap menace and Raikkonen has a skill level, or should have, to avoid errors like that. Mind you his comment after qualifying, saying he didn't care about the other drivers says it all. Selfish. He never has known how to smile and be polite. As you've probably gathered I've never liked him and my feelings have nothing to do with his collision with Alonso. Google Raikkonen knocks over child, watch the short clip and you'll know why. His total lack of feelings for the little girl crying her eyes out sums up my dislike for the man. Some have said it wasn't Raikkonen who knocked the little girl over. That changes nothing, any adult with half an ounce of feelings would have gone back an comforted her until her mother arrived. He's a disgrace.
 
Even without the crashes in Japan and Spa, Alonso would be at best 20 points ahead of Vettel so I think laying the blame of the 40 point loss at Lotus' door is a bit shortsighted. At the end of the day, Vettel's Red Bull is considerably faster than Alonso's Ferrari apart from at Monza where Vettel retired but was in the minor points anyway. Even with a 20 point gap I'd still place Vettel as the favourite as I think he'll win a few more races yet, the only thing stopping him will be the reliability of the Red Bull, unless Ferrari can find a fair bit of pace at Korea then the Red Bulls reliability is their only hope
 
Why should he? He's a racing driver who wants to win, in the cockpit when he's spun he would have been thinking "oh crap I've ruined the lap" not "oh crap I've ruined everyone elses laps"
He was asked afterwards how he felt about spoiling other drivers laps and said he didn't care. He had time to consider his answer and the effect of his spin. Most drivers would have said they were sorry to have ruined the times of those drivers that were on good laps. His mistake wrecked Hamilton's and Alonso's laps and most drivers would have apologized.
 
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