Grand Prix 2012 European Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Valencia........ :bored:

Even Abu Dhabi and Bahrain are more exciting in comparison. Valencia is the only grand prix on the calendar that I genuinley do not look forward to. It's dull, boring and hasn't provided an interesting race at all since its inception on the F1 calendar in 2008. Thankfully it won't be a regular feature in the future as it will be alternating with Barcelona in the future.

Going into the Grand Prix Lewis Hamilton is back as the Championship leader after becoming the 7th driver to win in 7 races with victory in the Canadian Grand Prix. After missing out on the podium in recent races he was back with vengeance after fighting back from starting second and being third with 10 laps to go but thanks to fresher tyres he made easy work of Vettel and Alonso in the latter laps who fell away after a gamble to one stop failed. In the end Roman Grosjean and Sergio Perez finished on the podium and it is testament to the unpredictably of 2012 that it wasn't the first time either of them have been on the podium this season.

From race to race no team has been consistently at the very front, in Spain it was Williams, in Monaco it was Red Bull and in Canada it was McLaren. Both Ferrari and Lotus have probably been the most consistent package over recent weeks but not enough to win races with podium places the highest they can manage, but considering the start to the season Ferrari made, that probably isn't a bad thing and Alonso is only 2 points off the championship leader with world champion Vettel just one point behind in third.

It's a complete reversal of 2011 as this time last year Hamilton left Canada with a world of problems after a DNF which involved a collision with team mate Button who went on to win one of the best races of his career passing Vettel on the last lap. But 12 months later Hamilton won the race with Button finishing a lapped 16th. What's worse for the 2009 champion is that was on merit as well and not down to any car failures or pit problems, it marks a horrid fall from grace after winning the opening race in Melbourne and an early run of podiums but now he is struggling to even get into Q3 and convert that into points finishes. Button appears clueless as to where the problem lies and it may not be a short term fix as the car isn't slow as Hamilton is currently proving. It could be already over as far as Button's title hopes are concerned as he is currently 43 points behind Hamilton and has roughly half the points total.

It is also interesting to note that Button was further behind the leader last season and he was second in the championship, while at the moment he lies in 8th behind both Lotus drivers who are the only front running drivers yet to win a race (excluding Schumacher) and having come close in Bahrain and Spain they will want to be the next winners and take the total to 8 winners in 8 races and with both Raikkonen and Grosjean closely matched it's hard to say who is the more likely. But it's Grosjean's form which is the most surprising, a lot of people questioned why he was given the driver role given the way he was outperformed in 2009 and a lot of people said he would be outraced by the returning Finn, but after 7 races he is only 2 points behind and that is despite several first lap incidents where he has been the innocent part in some cases but not others (Malaysia). With the pendulum swinging from race to race it is hard to predict who will have the upper hand in the Spanish heat.

For Galahad's brilliant circuit write up - http://cliptheapex.com/pages/valencia-street-circuit/
 
Pirelli will be bringing the mediums and softs to this race. Its hard to judge but I can see the Lotus cars doing well here just like in Bahrain. I think saving all 3 sets of mediums in qualifying could be very beneficial here.
 
Schumacher, Grosjean and Raikkonen (and Massa if he decides to show up one day) have realistic chances of extending the streak. In reality, I suspect the vast majority of wins for the rest of the season will be shared between Hamilton, Alonso and Vettel, but you never know.

Has anything ever happened at Valencia other than Webber's loop the loop?
 
Oh great, Valencia :rolleyes:

How many are going to waste next Sunday then?

The main thing I remember anyway is Kobayashi's late show a couple of years back when he overtook Alonso and Buemi and of course Webber's accident. Other than that I can't remember anything from Valencia.
 
Would you all prefer a Sunday of 'doing things with family' (which is really good but not on a race weekend!) or a, possibly, boring F1 GP from a beautiful city in southern Spain. I'll give it a go and might be happily surprised - hope to see you all in chat x
 
So, what they've decided is that there was too much overtaking at Valencia? :rolleyes:

This graph (from the database) says it all:

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Maybe they are trying to get the level of overtaking to be more in line with those of a traditional glamourous street circuit.
 
Valencia has one of the worst Turn Ones of the year for anything interesting to happen off the start, so pole position will be very important. Hopefully, there won't be anyone stupid enough *Red Bull* cough *Vettel* cough *Monaco* to save tyres in Q3.
 
Valencia has is one of the worst Turn Ones tracks of the year for anything interesting to happen off the start at all, so pole position will be very important. Hopefully, there won't be anyone stupid enough *Red Bull* cough *Vettel* cough *Monaco* to save tyres in Q3.

There we go TBY - fixed that for ya!

Every year I am optimistic that we will actually have a good year here, but sadly it never transpires. Hopefully my low expectation will result in a pleasent surprise. :givemestrength:

My prediction:

Hamilton and Alonso on the podium, Vettel 5th. Jenson to partially get his mojo back - qualify 6th and finish 6th
 
I am expecting Schmacher or Rosberg to go well here.Valencia shares many similaries with Monaco where Schumacher did set the pole time and then suffered his grid drop penalty.
So I feel that Schumacher could well end up on the top step of the podium if he repeats his Monaco pole position.
Lotus appear to be getting their qualifying act together, and there is little doubt that Grosjean will be player in the race.
Needless to say the usual suspects will be in the mix as well so all in all could be in for an interesting race.
 
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