Discussion in 'Teams' started by FB, Jul 27, 2011.
Just like McLaren for last 3 years then?
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RasputinLives I expect the Honda engine to have progressed by next season, but not enough to be real competition for Mercedes or Ferrari.
Do we think that is all down to the chassis or does the Honda engine just suit some places? They are getting better performance than McLaren at these tracks with arguably a worse driver pairing. So is that due to Torro Rosso having a better car or a Honda improvement?
At the 2017 Hungarian Grand Prix, the McLarens started 7th and 8th, and finished 6th and 10th
At the 2018 Hungarian Grand Prix, the Toro Rossos started 6th and 8th, and finished 6th and 11th.
McLaren have undoubtedly gone backwards this season, but this may have a lot to do with the compromises on the chassis to integrate the Renault engine. We will only get a real guide for whether it was the right move to dump Honda next year.
My question wasn't really about McLaren though it was more about which element is it that is making the Torro Rosso competitive at selected circuits - is it the chassis or is the Honda engine coming to life in certain scenarios?
I can;t explain Bahrain at the moment
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Maybe a reminder that Dan Ticktum is not far off getting a super licence and being eligible for promotion to F1.
& i dont rate him highly enough yet. In last yr of GP2 he won in hindsight in an easier year. Also he was in his 3rd season & giovinanzzi was a rookie. If giovinanzzi hadnt give his teammate a 4 race headstart. He mightve been champ instead of losing by 8pts
Lando Norris might still replace Vandoorne at Spa according rumours so Vandoorne might go to Toro Rosso - 4 years later as part of the deal to get James Key to Mclaren
It will be interesting to see whose career Mclaren see as less important so to speak
Carlos Sainz will not go back to Toro Rosso - he does not want to and Red Bull are not gaining anything out if it but they seem to be worried about the intensive rivalry he and Verstappen will have
Gasly therefore has a chance getting promoted to Red Bull something I did not see
If Ticktum wins F3 this year though he does get his superlicence.
RasputinLives THat is the only Red Bull junior who is being pushed because they seem to have burned them all out before their careers are fully developed
Is that horse power?
Yeah its a mclaren special
But no they think from FP1 & FP2 running/comparison. Its half a second a lap
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