Pre-Season The first Test of 2011 - Valencia

[snowy]

Test times from the final day of the Valencia test:

Θ. 	Driver		Best Lap 	Diff	Laps

1 	R. Kubica	1:13.144 		96

2 	A. Sutil	1:13.201 	+0.057 	117

3 	J. Button	1:13.553 	+0.409 	105

4 	M. Webber	1:13.936 	+0.792 	105

5 	F. Massa	1:14.017 	+0.873 	80

6 	T. Glock	1:14.207 	+1.063 	114

7 	P. Maldonado	1:14.299 	+1.155 	101

8 	S. Perez	1:14.458 	+1.325 	104

9 	M. Schumacher	1:14.537 	+1.393 	110

10 	S. Buemi	1:14.801 	+1.657 	73

11 	N. Karthikeyan	1:16.535 	+3.391 	63 

 

[snowy]

Combined best times over the entire 3 days:

Pos 	Name 	 	Best 		Gap 	

1 	KUBICA 	 	1:13.144 	- 	

2 	SUTIL 	 	1:13.201 	0.057 	

3 	ALONSO 	 	1:13.307 	0.163 	

4 	BUTTON 	 	1:13.553 	0.409 	

5 	VETTEL 	 	1:13.614 	0.470 	 	

6 	DI RESTA 	1:13.844 	0.700 	 	

7 	WEBBER 	 	1:13.936 	0.792 	

8 	MASSA 	 	1:14.017 	0.873 	

9 	GLOCK 	 	1:14.207 	1.063 	

10 	MALDONADO  	1:14.299 	1.155 	

11 	HAMILTON 	1:14.353 	1.209 		

12 	PEREZ 		1:14.458 	1.314 	

13 	KARTHIKEYAN 	1:14.472 	1.328 	

14 	SCHUMACHER 	1:14.537 	1.393 	

15 	ROSBERG 	1:14.645 	1.501 	

16 	BUEMI 		1:14.801 	1.657 	

17 	BARRICHELLO 	1:16.023 	2.879 	 	

18 	ALGUERSUARI 	1:16.474 	3.330 		

19 	KOVALAINEN 	1:20.649 	7.505 

 

[McZiderRed]

I have a couple of questions about the Valencia test.

I presume the teams using their new 2011 cars were using KERS. McLaren, for example, presumably weren't as they were using a 2010 car. Do we know which teams, if any, were using KERS?

Likewise, were any of the teams using the adjustable rear wing, to see if it works and what difference it makes? I presume the teams can use the adjustable wing whenever they want during the test, until in a race and it's use is then governed by rules. Could any of the time difference be due to using the adjustable wing? (Would the teams using the 2010 cars have the adjustable wing?)

 

[snowy]

If memory serves (and there is some debate as to the efficacy of my memory) Williams were not using KERs as it malfunctioned on day one. Sauber were using the adjustable rear wing as there were photos of it in different positions. I would be guessing the rest I am afraid...

 

[snowy]

Schumacher Vs Kubica long run pace:

Schumacher	Kubica

01:20.698	01:16.247	

01:15.756	01:17.068	

01:15.840	01:16.880	

01:16.113	01:16.525	

01:15.914	01:16.758	

01:16.101	01:16.836	

01:16.168	01:16.832	

01:16.156	01:16.600	

01:16.398	01:16.640	

01:16.085	01:16.823	

01:16.231	01:16.693	

01:16.669	01:16.854	

01:16.573	01:16.721	

01:16.930	01:16.820	

01:16.725	01:17.162	

01:17.680	01:16.608	

01:16.728	01:16.650	

01:16.700	01:17.150	

01:17.461	01:17.196	

01:17.903	01:19.225	

01:18.197	01:19.332	

		01:18.196	

		01:17.849	

		01:18.179	

		01:18.124

 

[snowy]

Or:

Schumacher	Kubica

-------------	01:16.247

-------------	01:17.068

-------------	01:16.880

-------------	01:16.525

01:20.698	01:16.758

01:15.756	01:16.836

01:15.840	01:16.832

01:16.113	01:16.600

01:15.914	01:16.640

01:16.101	01:16.823

01:16.168	01:16.693

01:16.156	01:16.854

01:16.398	01:16.721

01:16.085	01:16.820

01:16.231	01:17.162

01:16.669	01:16.608

01:16.573	01:16.650

01:16.930	01:17.150

01:16.725	01:17.196

01:17.680	01:19.225

01:16.728	01:19.332

01:16.700	01:18.196

01:17.461	01:17.849

01:17.903	01:18.179

01:18.197	01:18.124

 

[sportsman]

I have a couple of questions about the Valencia test.

I presume the teams using their new 2011 cars were using KERS. McLaren, for example, presumably weren't as they were using a 2010 car. Do we know which teams, if any, were using KERS?

Likewise, were any of the teams using the adjustable rear wing, to see if it works and what difference it makes? I presume the teams can use the adjustable wing whenever they want during the test, until in a race and it's use is then governed by rules. Could any of the time difference be due to using the adjustable wing? (Would the teams using the 2010 cars have the adjustable wing?)

There is no clear reports on who was using what.Alonso and Rosberg both made press comments regarding the feeling when the wing was activated, so I assume they were using it.Sauber definitely.They have a video on You Tube showing it working.KERS.I don't know about that.Anything else would be guesswork.
The teams using 2010 cars would very likely be using the adjustable wing.According to Aldo Costa the adjustable rear wing has marked effect on the aero balance of the car, so they probably were running it.But I stress that is speculation.Not fact.

 

[McZiderRed]

OK. Thanks Snowy and Sportsman.

 

[jonnybario]

Great discussion here over the past three days - and another thank you to Snowy for the timings information. I think i made the right choice in signing up here (606 refugee here) - great atmosphere: just the right mix of informed debate, humour and genuine passion for the sport- without being 'elitist' or 'cliquey'

 

[cider_and_toast]

without being 'elitist' or 'cliquey'

I like to make a point of never being something I couldn't spell !!

 

[Brogan]

I think i made the right choice in signing up here (606 refugee here) - great atmosphere: just the right mix of informed debate, humour and genuine passion for the sport- without being 'elitist' or 'cliquey'

Many thanks for the kind words

Make sure you tell your friends

 

[jonnybario]

Many thanks for the kind words

Make sure you tell your friends

Will certainly do, Brogan, and thank you for your hard work in setting up such a well organised forum. I can think of a few decent 606 posters I haven't seen here who would fit right in...

 

[snowy]

Welcome to CTA Jonny.
You see you don't have to live like a refugee.

 

[jonnybario]

Cheers Snowy - I get the impression CTA's the kind of place where the kettle's always on and the cookie jar is always well stocked if you know what I mean

 

[jonnybario]

If memory serves (and there is some debate as to the efficacy of my memory) Williams were not using KERs as it malfunctioned on day one. Sauber were using the adjustable rear wing as there were photos of it in different positions. I would be guessing the rest I am afraid...

There's an Autosport article in the news section- apparently Williams were using KERS today. Maldonado completed 100 laps with it. Very encouraging, I think - he posted some pretty competitive times and the system ran reliably. Fingers crossed for a Team Willy renaissance this year...

 

[McZiderRed]

CTA's the kind of place where the kettle's always on and the cookie jar is always well stocked if you know what I mean

Mmmm, cookies! Mines a double chocolate chip, please!

 

[jonnybario]

Mmmm, cookies! Mines a double chocolate chip, please!

I like a bit of a 'pretentious' biscuit myself - oatflake and cranberry for me - not very 'F1' unfortunately...

 

[McZiderRed]

There's an Autosport article in the news section- apparently Williams were using KERS today. Maldonado completed 100 laps with it. Very encouraging, I think - he posted some pretty competitive times and the system ran reliably. Fingers crossed for a Team Willy renaissance this year...

It will be interesting this season, to see which teams can make the best use of KERS, balancing the speed gain against the extra weight and whether the driver can get the right 'balance' on his car..

I also see there's an article on Autosport about Jenson. He seems happy so far, with the new tyres. I reckon it could be a good year for Jenson!

 

[AlexM]

I get the impression CTA's the kind of place where the kettle's always on and the cookie jar is always well stocked if you know what I mean

They keep hiding the cookie jar from me, the swines!

 

[sportsman]

Just a small point.There is no weight penalty running KERS in 2011.The minimum weight has been increased by 20kg and the cars balance is now regulated by the rules.The minimum weight is now 640 kg and the weight balance is front not less than 291 kg and rear 342 kg.