F1Brits_90
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Pre-Season 2020 Testing and Car Launches
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F1Brits_90
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what Is happening here, why is the steering wheel pulling forward
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Promising only in the fact that the car seems quite well balanced running on fumes.
F1Brits_90
World Champion
although as we know you can trust the F1 teams in testing about as much as you can trust boris & farage. but according to Russell it was on a race run, not at 100% because wants mental capacity to understand what the cars doing & it would've been on a harder compound. I was reading will buxton thinking that majority of that time came under brakes.
but I don't think they will be in q3 this season but I think they will be in B race this season & leave the C race
but I don't think they will be in q3 this season but I think they will be in B race this season & leave the C race
I would assume that the Mercedes steering wheel that they are using is legal until Ferrari complain about it.
Well we all know what happens when there's a moving device on a car. Suddenly an excuse will be found to link this to aerodynamics and out comes the banning stick.
If Adrian Newey had come up with the steering device and the rear suspension that Mercedes have come up with he would be hailed as a genius.But as it is Mercedes who have come up with it even after all there years of dominance its legality is called into question.
Brilliant and genius.
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
no-one should need to complain; this is straight up cheating. The fact that the steering wheel is, in effect, changing the suspension geometry whilst the car is in motion.
it will either fall foul of the suspension geometry rule, or the movable aerodynamic device- as it seems to be a way to reduce both mechanical and drag related retardation on the straights!
This is not a clever manipulation of airflow ( like the F-duct), but a straight out mechanical device.
rufus_mcdufus
Champion Elect
Do we know if it's changing the suspension geometry or is it adjusting the toe alignment via the steering rack? Just wondering whether they count steering rack as part of the suspension.
Sebs Ferrari just stopped on track. Not looking good for Ferrari is it. Seem well off pace* and now the first car to have a real failure.
* I know it's just testing.
* I know it's just testing.
rufus_mcdufus
Champion Elect
Oh they're clearly sandbagging. Or something.
Dartman
Pole Sitter
Mercedes says DAS is for sale to anyone, so it can it be illegal? If it is off the shelf does it have an advantage, will Mercedes just make money selling the latest tech and just dump it as not worth the trouble on their own car, though the system is an off the shelf item does it need a suspension/chassis redesign to fit it?
Perhaps it's just one of those inovations that causes great discussion but miss something else that it was designed to take attention away from
Perhaps it's just one of those inovations that causes great discussion but miss something else that it was designed to take attention away from
Bottas 1.15.773 Yikes.
F1Brits_90
World Champion
in hindsight, I genuinely believe that Mercedes weren't sandbagging last yr, they just had 2nd best car in testing. because then they brought the new updated car for Melbourne which was better.
No we don't know that, but we have to assume it is only the latter because the FIA have said it's within the rules. All it seemingly does is create a small steering movement by moving the control arms, the difference here being that rather than moving both control arms to the left left or right, the control arms are pulled in towards each other, or pushed away from each other.
In the most simple terms, if you imagine a steering column connected to two control rods perpendicular to the column, if you move the column backwards, you move the control rods inner mount back which has the effect of shortening the control rod and adjusting the wheel alignment. How they are achieving the simple concept is no doubt more complicated in order to stay within the letter of the rules!
What it is worth in lap time is anyone's guess at the moment, but steering geometry is very much a compromise of a number of factors and what this does is reduce one of a number of those compromises.
it could well transpire that the principle advantage is actually in reduced tyre wear, the knock on of which being the drivers can push harder and longer on the stints.
Suspension is tightly regulated. Steering is not, currently.
It is understood to be unrelated to the suspension geometry. We have to assume this is true because the FIA are seemingly accepting of it
Steering is for obvious reasons excluded from the movable aerodynamic device rules!
it is effectively outlawed in future regulations by adding one sentence to the '21 rules, which only serves to confirm it is entirely unrelated to the suspension.
Looks like we're set for a really tight battle....
Oh wait, nope.
Oh wait, nope.
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