Grand Prix 2014 Hungarian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

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  1. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    For the 28th time in a row we come to the Hungaroring for the Hungarian Grand Prix. That actually makes this the 3rd longest serving track on the calendar with Spa taking a break for 2003 and Silverstone not having the British Grand Prix in 1986. So rightfully should be given the ‘classic’ status as an event. It isn’t a phrase used very often for the track though as it greatly divides opinion amongst fans due to the difficult nature if passing on the track. Its often described as Monaco without the walls and whilst to some that is a negative tag for me, as I love Monaco, it’s a compliment. The twisty nature of the dust bowl that is Hungry is a great leveller for car performance or for at least mixing up the running order as due to the place barely having a straight the teams can’t just rely on horsepower to blast their way through. One of the reasons I personally love the track is because a driver who dials himself into the track can really make a difference. If a driver picks their lines spot on and finds the best spots on the tarmac for grip they can arguably get more of a gain at this track than on any other track all season.

    Personally I fell in love with the Hungaroring after watching the tense battle of the Boutsen train in 1990. For me that was F1 at its finest as the best in the business at the time put each other under pressure and tried as hard as they can to find a way to the front. Boutsen held on with the defensive drive of his life but Senna came above the rest to take the 2nd spot although he and Berger both got away with basically punting Naninni and Mansell out of the race in moves now that would have the stewards jumping over themselves to slap on massive penalty’s. Speaking of penalty’s it would be amiss of me not to mention what, for me, was the overtake of the season by Grosjean last year that was ‘disallowed’ due to a dubious judgement of track limits.

    Overtaking is difficult here but whilst it is not in abundance it is always of high quality as a driver really has to work hard to make it stick. The hard nature of the overtaking does not mean we always have lights to flag victories. This would not be a Hungarian GP review without a mention of Mansell’s win from 12th in 1989. The racing here is never without passion, which leads me to pointing towards Damon Hill’s awesome drive in the Arrows in 97. Its also in recent times been known for first time winners with Alonso, Button and Kovalinen taking debut wins here.

    This season the Hungaroring should shake things up a bit by again the Merc advantage with that not able to use that horsepower. We do seem to say that every week now though. If you look at Lewis Hamilton’s form around this track I can’t see it mattering too much and, whilst Rosberg has never had great results round here, Its similarity to Monaco and his form there suggests he won’t be any slouch either. The Red Bull chassie should really come in to play round here and should shuffle them forward meaning Danny Ricciardo might be buzzing around them silver arrows and with Vettel creeping ever closer to him he should be around too. The Williams is continuing to look good with Bottas really seeming to have found another gear and with this being the nearest he has to a home race he could be a factor. I don’t think we should rule out the Mclaren’s too as Jenson Button is another expert around here and KMag comes to one of the few tracks he knows and race around last season. The car seems to be getting better and any sign of a weather mix up and they’ll most likely have to be factored in by the pair at the front.

    This race is the last race of the first act of F1 2014 and you have to say its been a good one. We all know that the summer break can change a lot but whatever that may bring everyone will be hoping for a great result at this one. The break is a long time to rue any errors, and in the case of the Merc drivers, it’s a long time to be sitting doing maths in your head at what you need to do to pull a points gap back.

    So come on guys hit me with a few predictions as well as thoughts on the Hungaroring.
     
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  3. Road of Bones

    Road of Bones MTC Mole Premium Contributor

    Paragraph 3 puts me in mind of Sniff's Trentham Sleeves GP previews...;)
     
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  4. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Had chance to pick out the clips of some of the incidents I was talking about.

    Which one deserves a penalty?







    How times change
     
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  5. Johnny Carwash

    Johnny Carwash Champion Elect Contributor

    I think the sequence of every time Lewis Hamilton has won this race and Kimi Raikkonen coming 2nd is going to be broken at this race on Sunday.
     
  6. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Damon Hill, Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button and Heikki Kovalainen all claimed their first F1 win at this circuit so come on Valtteri Bottas add yourself to that list...
     
  7. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    RasputinLives I do hope you are not promoting crashing into people and overtaking off track.;)
     
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  8. Dario Resta

    Dario Resta Podium Finisher

    Well, that was a bloody good pass by Grosjean. Nothing wrong with that (except there was)...

    I was a big fan of Sandro Nannini, so obviously Senna should have been punished for that, and just to make sure I would have done him for the Berger one as well!!
     
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  9. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    All of them...
     
  10. snowy

    snowy Champion Elect

    Mercedes Formula 1 bosses Toto Wolff and Paddy Lowe were injured during an attempted team-demolition... I mean team-building event in Austria.
     
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  11. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    ....and now he is doing a shoulder, collar bone, elbow and wrist building event...
     
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  12. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    So are we expecting Red Bull to be best of the rest this weekend due to thr lack of horsepower not being such a big factor or do we expect Williams/Bottas to still be leading the way?

    I have to say that Red Bull was really shown to be painfully slow in a straight line in Germany. It did lead to Seb and Danny having to find different ways to pass which was great to watch.

    Having said that it wasn't just the Red Bull that looked slow on the straight. The Merc breezed past a Mclaren like it wasn't there at one point as well.
     
  13. Incubus

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    Well Red Bull should be quite strong there what with the high percentage of low-to-middle speed corners, and they shouldn't have to worry about Ferrari for whom this is bound to be one of those nowhere-week-ends due to the lack of high-speed curves.
     
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  14. mjo

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    Which is why I now have them in my FF1 team :)
    By the way it looks like it could rain on Sunday.
     
  15. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #dejavu Valued Member

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    mjo - Jenson Button will be happy!
     
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    Indeed. He can only ever seem to win in the rain!!!
     
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  17. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    We could do with a wet race.

    Hungry is slippy enough as it is so with rain we could see a mixed up result.

    Still can't see past the Mercs for the win though.
     
  18. Johnny Carwash

    Johnny Carwash Champion Elect Contributor

    I bet Jenson Button is doing a rain dance as we speak, as it is the best chance of him getting a top 5 finish.
     
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  19. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Lewis just told over the radio to select 'menu, BBW reset'

    Didn't stand for what I thought it did. LOL
     
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  20. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    it looks like Red Bull will be much closer due to better aero performance

    Not sure if WIlliams may struggle due to lack of straights and will be in a close fight with Ferrari and Mclaren
     
  21. Olivier

    Olivier Race Winner

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    a look back at a fantastic race, Hungary 2006:

     
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