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I'm also counting reliability into part of the overall package of best car (and indeed team in regard to trackside errors)


You can't really argue that McLaren was a better place to be in 2012 than Red-Bull.


We all know Red-Bull has been the best team for years, and I'm not saying Vettel hasn't done the job required because he has.


I'm merely saying Hamilton has not had a car thats won a WCC and the other 2 have.


I think the 2007 Ferrari was slighlty better, McLAren had Alonso and Hamilton at the wheel which for on track results allows for some shortfall in performance (even if it doesn't help the politics)


Which team is Lewis Hamilton driving for in 2025?
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