Grand Prix 2012 Hungarian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

After just 7 days the F1 circus rolls on to Hungary after an entertaining Grand Prix in Germany where Fernando Alonso won his third grand prix of the season to extend his lead at the top of the championship over the Red Bull duo.

From being a midfield clogger in Melbourne, Fernando Alonso finds himself in one of if not the quickest cars following a stunning turn around from the Italian team in the European season and now he has a considerable lead at the top of the standings. Despite a 20 second penalty for Sebastian Vettel, he still lies comfortably in third place in the standings and just behind team mate Mark Webber. It's nearly the halfway point in the championship and not many people would have predicted Webber to be above Vettel in the standings or maybe that Kimi Raikkonen would be ahead of Lewis Hamilton who was the only retirement in Germany after picking up an early puncture.

McLaren made the biggest gain in Germany as they rediscovered the form they had at the start of the season and if Saturday had been dry and Hamilton not have a puncture they could well have had 2 drivers on the podium or at the least one of their drivers at the top of the podium. Not so long ago I wrote a thread on their mid season development problems but they seem to have responded in the best possible way as Jenson Button finished third (later second after Vettel's penalty). Hamilton showed that despite problems after the puncture he had pace after matching the leaders pace and unlapping himself on Vettel and keeping up with Alonso before the stops, this didn't go down well with Vettel who was critical of this in the post race interview.

Sauber enjoyed an extremely fruitful weekend with Kobayashi finishing 4th and Perez finishing 6th and I think that's Kobayashi's best finish in F1 to date and it means that both Sauber drivers are now in the top 10 of the Championship which is a great result for the team and hopefully they can build on that. The interesting thing to note is the form (or lack of) of Torro Rosso, last season they scored 41 points with Alguersuari scoring 25 with Buemi scoring 15. Right now they have scored just the 6 points. While the loss of form surely can't completely be down to the drivers, but I wonder if they are regretting booting both out over the winter. While they argue that they are there to blood in young drivers, are they doing it at a cost to themselves? Last season they finished ahead of Williams in the constructors and just behind Sauber. Right now they are 41 points behind Williams and 74 behind Sauber, that's a pretty big turnaround. Either way, surely questions need to be asked there about what's going on as today both drivers were nowhere near the points and of the 'established' teams they only finished ahead of Senna, another driver who is under threat for his seat.

Looking ahead to Hungary it's a track which traditionally was one of the more duller tracks on the calendar but in recent years and mainly since the tightening of turn 1 it has produced some classic races and has also had the occasional sprinkling of rain such as in 2006 and 2011 where Jenson Button persevered to win both races. It's a track that has been good to both McLaren drivers with both Button and Hamilton winning there twice in previous years and after the updates working in Germany they will hope that one of them can make it 3 wins next weekend.

Galahad's track report - http://cliptheapex.com/pages/hungaroring/
 
Well, I fell asleep on lap 2 and woke up, refreshed on lap 59 and by the sounds of it I didn't miss much LOL
 
Well I guess if I was to say Maldonado was being dirty, McLaren had a questionable strategy for at least one driver, Vettel was on 'handbags radio' (quote of the race) McLaren had a sticky wheel gun, Grosjean visited the dirt several times... You'd be hard pushed to name that race.

Biggest surprise? Senna finished with no damage!

I enjoyed it, there were some interesting moments and strategies.
 
Think I've watched more of the bike road race than the F1 this afternoon but congratulations to Lewis :1st:

A nice timely result to restore his mojo & very controlled despite the hiccough in the pit stop.
Nice to hear the national anthem at last :chuffed:
 
Anyone know yet why the start was aborted? It unfairly (tho through his own misunderstanding) screwed Schumacher’s race (even more than it already was).
 
Apparently Schumacher switched his engine off by mistake - at least that's what one of the commentators said.
 
No idea, it looked like Charlie resorted to hand signals to send them round again - all that technology available & it looked like he was hailing a cab :snigger:
As you say, it screwed Michael's race.
 
Yeah I know he did thats what I meant by his own misunderstanding. Guess it looked like a red light from way back there.
 
Dull race, but beatifully controlled from Lewis, and McLaren actually close the points gap in the constructors. Now 4 weeks off to think wbout how to improve the car further.
 
Sounds like I didn't miss a huge amount 'watching' on the F1 Live Timing, listening on 5Live. Interesting rather than particularly exciting.
Some interesting tyre management strategies going on during the race;
RAI on his 2nd stint didn't particularly try and close on VET, who was always 4s ahead, then put in some blistering laps 41-45.

Interesting quote from Sam Michael (from BBC website):
Sam Michaels to Lewis Hamilton: "Some fantastic time management there Lewis listening to us." Lewis: "You don't trust me? Michaels: "No, I trust you it's just a team thing."
RAI quickly closed the 4+s gap, with HAM seemingly not having huge pace (1:27s), but RAI could do nothing in Sector 2 once within 1s, and HAM consistently had better pace in Sector 3, into the DRS zone; similar to how ALO managed things last race.
 
As we go in to the summer break, then, it seems that McLaren have the fastest ultimate pace but Lotus can get more out of the tyres in long runs. Red Bull, at least in Vettel's hands, are not far behind in 3rd and Ferrari 4th. Behind them, the battle between Sauber, Williams and Force India seems to change at every race and Mercedes have dropped in to that battle (and aren't even at the front of it). If things stay like this, Alonso's lead will start to dwindle very quickly.

As for the race itself, well there really wasn't that much to talk about by current standards. Raikkonen did amazingly well in his 2nd stint and his little battle with Grosjean was nail biting, but apart from that it was a master class from Hamilton in how to keep calm under pressure. He had either Grosjean or Raikkonen in his mirrors for most of the race, it may have been very difficult/impossible to overtake but any slight mistake from Lewis and they would have been past. He also seemed to handle the tyres better than Jenson, who McLaren disastrously switched to a 3 stop.
 
Micheal Schumacher, "Today was obviously one of those races you will not look back at for very long. Our engine temperatures were already very high before the start, and then when the yellow lights came on, I switched the engine off. After I had started from the pit lane, I picked up a penalty and then a puncture. So all in all, the beginning of the race was not very pleasant for us. Everything you do not need came together. We did not have full telemetry before the start and the period of overheating, and this is why we finally decided to retire to not risk any damage which might make us suffer in the next race. Like this, we can now check the car properly before the break and prior to Spa. For sure this weekend is not one to remember, but then there are weekends like this which you can only accept. I am sure we will be looking much better in the next race to come."
 
Wasn't a bad race today, more strategically interesting than anything else and no-one seemed to predict Kimi's surge through the field. He'll be the favourite for Belgium in my opinion
 
So Schumacher stopped in the wrong place on the grid, then switched off his engine, then sped through the pits thinking that was OK and the pit lane speed limit didn't apply prior to the start of the race?
 
He didn't stop in his grid slot - either the wrong one or over shot it.

Edit: Just read he was one place out of position.
 
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