I wonder if McLaren have been able to learn something about Red Bull's engine mapping by observing them running without the EBD at Silverstone. Lewis mentioned that they had made a fair leap forward with an upgrade in this area.
2011 relative qualifying pace
- Thread starter Brogan
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More of the same.
McLaren though seem to be losing more time with each race since they were narrowly pipped to pole at Germany.
Although it was Webber on pole there so perhaps if Vettel had done his usual thing the gap would have been a lot bigger?
Anyway, McLaren are definitely slipping back whereas Ferrari are roughly in the same place as a few races ago.
McLaren though seem to be losing more time with each race since they were narrowly pipped to pole at Germany.
Although it was Webber on pole there so perhaps if Vettel had done his usual thing the gap would have been a lot bigger?
Anyway, McLaren are definitely slipping back whereas Ferrari are roughly in the same place as a few races ago.
It's taken them most of the season, but McLaren have finally managed to qualify on pole, ahead of Red Bull.
Looking at the charts in the first post, they've been inching ever closer for the last 3 races, and truthfully speaking should have done it last week at Suzuka, if not for the fact that Hamilton didn't manage to get a second lap in.
I think what's interesting is that I expected to see some general downward trending as the other teams managed to reduce the advantage that Red Bull had at the start of the season, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
If anything, only McLaren seem to have managed to stay with them, and Ferrari to a certain extent.
Looking at the charts in the first post, they've been inching ever closer for the last 3 races, and truthfully speaking should have done it last week at Suzuka, if not for the fact that Hamilton didn't manage to get a second lap in.
I think what's interesting is that I expected to see some general downward trending as the other teams managed to reduce the advantage that Red Bull had at the start of the season, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
If anything, only McLaren seem to have managed to stay with them, and Ferrari to a certain extent.
Fenderman
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Yup. I was wondering when I had look at the charts earlier today how they would have looked had the couple of instances of Lewis missing second runs in Q3 would have affected the picture. I thought about posting and then it occurred to me that I could end up opening another can of "what if" worms. So, without wishing to do that, I wondered if anyone has totted up how many times Lewis, and for that matter any of the top six, have missed second runs this year. I'm not asking anyone to do this as it would be merely an academic exercise ... just wondered.
These are my notes on qualifying
[box=600]Australia
Q1
Both HRT’s not within 107% of fastest time so DNQ
Q2
Barrichello off circuit and stopped in gravel – prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
China
Q1
Mark Webber knocked out in P18 - due to KERS not working and using the harder tyre which is 1 second per lap slower
Q2
Petrov stopped on circuit due to engine problem - prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
Turkey
Q1
Kobayashi stopped on circuit due to a fuel pump problem – prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
Spain
Q1
Heidfeld did not set a time due to a fire in FP3
Q3
Micheal Schumacher did not set a time due to a KERS problem
Monaco
Q1
Vitantonio Liuzzi did not set a time due to a crash in FP3
Narain Karthikeyan did not set a time due to a rear suspension problem
Q3
Sergio Perez crashed heavily towards the end of the session cuasing a red flag and did not set a time due to his crash
Lewis Hamilton was held up on his only flying lap by Felipa Massa and was then prevented from completing his second lap due to the session being red flagged
Lewis Hamilton originally qualified seventh with a Q3 time of 1:15.280, but then had his fastest Q3 time deleted for cutting the chicane. He started from 9th on the grid due to Perez not participating
Europe
Q2
Maldonado stopped on circuit – prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
Q1 was red flagged due to Maldonado's car being stopped on track
Great Britain
Q3
Hamilton set his time on a set of used tyres which had already been used in Q2. Towards the end of the session it started to rain and he was unable to set a fast time on a new set of tyres.
Belgium
Q1
The right rear wheel came off Michael Schumacher's car on the first lap of Q1 and he hit the barriers, damaging his car
The session was red flagged due to Adrian Sutil hitting the barrier and damaging his car
Q2
Pastor Maldonado deliberately hit Lewis Hamilton after Q2 had finished, after Lewis Hamilton overtook him at the final corner on their last laps
Singapore
Q2
The session was red flagged due to Kobayashi hitting the barrier after launching over a kerb
Q3
Schumcher, Liuzzi and di Resta did not set a time in Q3 in order to save tyres
Hamilton got a puncture and was unable to do a second flying lap after a refuelling problem
Japan
Q3
Hamilton and Shumacher were unable to start their flying laps due to the chequered flag dropping before they crossed the line
Lewis Hamilton's time was set on a tyre which had already been used in Q2
Korea
Q3
Sebastian Vettel took a short cut during Q3 on his way back to the pits but was not penalised
Adrian Sutil and Paul di Resta did not set a time in Q3 in order to save tyres[/quote]
That's most of it I think, although I may have missed off some drivers who didn't set times to save tyres.
[box=600]Australia
Q1
Both HRT’s not within 107% of fastest time so DNQ
Q2
Barrichello off circuit and stopped in gravel – prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
China
Q1
Mark Webber knocked out in P18 - due to KERS not working and using the harder tyre which is 1 second per lap slower
Q2
Petrov stopped on circuit due to engine problem - prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
Turkey
Q1
Kobayashi stopped on circuit due to a fuel pump problem – prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
Spain
Q1
Heidfeld did not set a time due to a fire in FP3
Q3
Micheal Schumacher did not set a time due to a KERS problem
Monaco
Q1
Vitantonio Liuzzi did not set a time due to a crash in FP3
Narain Karthikeyan did not set a time due to a rear suspension problem
Q3
Sergio Perez crashed heavily towards the end of the session cuasing a red flag and did not set a time due to his crash
Lewis Hamilton was held up on his only flying lap by Felipa Massa and was then prevented from completing his second lap due to the session being red flagged
Lewis Hamilton originally qualified seventh with a Q3 time of 1:15.280, but then had his fastest Q3 time deleted for cutting the chicane. He started from 9th on the grid due to Perez not participating
Europe
Q2
Maldonado stopped on circuit – prohibited from continuing due to being stopped on track
Q1 was red flagged due to Maldonado's car being stopped on track
Great Britain
Q3
Hamilton set his time on a set of used tyres which had already been used in Q2. Towards the end of the session it started to rain and he was unable to set a fast time on a new set of tyres.
Belgium
Q1
The right rear wheel came off Michael Schumacher's car on the first lap of Q1 and he hit the barriers, damaging his car
The session was red flagged due to Adrian Sutil hitting the barrier and damaging his car
Q2
Pastor Maldonado deliberately hit Lewis Hamilton after Q2 had finished, after Lewis Hamilton overtook him at the final corner on their last laps
Singapore
Q2
The session was red flagged due to Kobayashi hitting the barrier after launching over a kerb
Q3
Schumcher, Liuzzi and di Resta did not set a time in Q3 in order to save tyres
Hamilton got a puncture and was unable to do a second flying lap after a refuelling problem
Japan
Q3
Hamilton and Shumacher were unable to start their flying laps due to the chequered flag dropping before they crossed the line
Lewis Hamilton's time was set on a tyre which had already been used in Q2
Korea
Q3
Sebastian Vettel took a short cut during Q3 on his way back to the pits but was not penalised
Adrian Sutil and Paul di Resta did not set a time in Q3 in order to save tyres[/quote]
That's most of it I think, although I may have missed off some drivers who didn't set times to save tyres.
I'll have cause to return to this page for Rootersport's 2011 F1 Season Review!
Nice to see the purple line appear on this graph!
You were thinking "I very well might get away with this!"
The interesting thing here, and something we will never know, is that we are in the dark as to which was the faster car today. Has the Red Bull advantage been overturned or is the McLaren now just within fighting range? I want to see a Hamilton/Vettel pairing. My money's on our home-boy but it's a weak bet. I hope we get to find out one day.
