Pre-Season Jerez Test 10-13Feb

[snowy]

Hamilton is the man on the move as he sets the best time of the day - 1m19.952s

Then 1m19.684s, 1m19.583s

 

[snowy]

1. L. Hamilton		McLaren	MP4-25		1:19.583	 	113  	pit

2. A. Sutil		Force India VJM-03	1:20.180	+0.597	84 	pit

3. R. Barrichello	Williams FW32		1:20.341	+0.758	90 	pit

4. R. Kubica		Renault	R30		1:20.358	+0.775	85 	pit

5. M. Schumacher	Mercedes GP W01		1:20.613	+1.030	84 	pit

6. S. Vettel		Red Bull Racing	RB6	1:21.203	+1.620	90 	pit

7. F. Massa		Ferrari	F10		1:21.485	+1.902	160 	pit

8. P. de la Rosa	Sauber	C29		1:22.134	+2.551	105 	pit

9. L. Di Grassi		Virgin Racing VR-01	1:22.912	+3.329	63 	pit

10. J. Alguersuari	Toro Rosso STR5		1:24.072	+4.489	98 	pit

 

[Brogan]

I take it all back

 

[rufus_mcdufus]

but it's only testing - and doesn't mean anything.

 

[snowy]

Summary of 2nd test at Jerez from Autosport

 

[FB]

No real pattern from a team perspective apart from at Ferrari, the Torro Rosso's look consistently quick though unless they are low fuel "glory" runs. Anyone any idea if McLaren added any upgrades to their car for the last day or did they just take off all the sensor arrays?

BTW, thanks for all the updates Snowy - much appreciated

 

[fat jez]

Yep, sterling work Mr Snowy

 

[Galahad]

Terrific snowy, many thanks.

I don't think I can draw any conclusions at all from that lot. Even the Virgin isn't miles behind.

 

[Boyle]

Great work snowy! Maybe you should be our time lord!

Anyway, like GM says, not much to take from this but it's just comforting to see that the Mclaren isn't the dog that some were saying. And could we maybe see STR running it's sister team close? Highly unlikely but that Ferrari engine certainly seems to be purring this year

 

[snowy]

Thanks guys.

STR are doing an incredible job, they appear to have stolen a march on Red Bull. It might well have something to do with the engine. It is really unfortunate that whilst Felipe was doing his long run the Williams live timing crashed. We'd have a far better idea of their pace and tyre wear. I believe Felipe ended his run in the low 1m22's and Lewis interrupted long run ended in the 23's. It is still possible that Ferrari are some way ahead of McLaren, though most observers are saying the McLaren looks to be looking and behaving like the class of the field.

Time will tell...

 

[Brogan]

Roll on next Wednesday which is the final and a 5 day test according to the Calendar.

Followed by the real thing 2 weeks later

 

[snowy]

Don't forget the Barcelona test 26th-28th.

Because I am such a F1 hound and pedant I feel like the 2010 season is already in full swing! Why wait another month to get all excited and "into" the new season. I don't subscribe to the view that F1 is boring and there is not enough overtaking because F1 isn't boring, it has so many interesting aspects and nuances. In fact the races are inconsequential by themselves!

The races only make sense if you consider all the other aspects of the sport. Which is why plans to reduce pre season testing, race weekends , on event testing, introduce sprint races, etc are totally abhorent to me.

 

[snowy]

Found Felipe's lap times.

Felipe's laps

0 ----

3 1:29.010

4 1:28.299 -0.711

5 ----

6 1:28.299

7 1:32.247 +3.948

8 1:31.008 -1.239

9 1:31.402 +0.394

10 1:31.004 -0.398

11 1:31.950 +0.946

12 ----

13 1:31.950

14 1:29.165 -2.785

15 1:29.153 -0.012

16 1:29.454 +0.301

17 1:28.892 -0.562

18 ----

19 1:28.892

20 1:29.556 +0.664

21 1:29.387 -0.169

22 1:29.249 -0.138

23 1:29.820 +0.571

24 1:29.519 -0.301

25 1:29.650 +0.131

26 1:29.428 -0.222

27 1:29.680 +0.252

28 ----

29 1:29.680

30 ----

31 1:28.839



----



59 1:23.847 -4.992

60 1:24.186 +0.339

61 1:24.108 -0.078

62 1:23.847 -0.261

63 1:24.083 +0.236

64 1:24.195 +0.112

65 1:24.235 +0.04

66 1:25.103 +0.868

67 1:23.957 -1.146

68 1:24.365 +0.408

69 1:24.498 +0.133

70 1:25.134 +0.636

71 1:24.826 -0.308

72 1:24.389 -0.437

73 1:24.558 +0.169

74 1:24.553 -0.005

75 1:24.424 -0.129

76 1:25.199 +0.775

77 1:25.169 -0.03

78 1:24.433 -0.736

79 1:24.652 +0.219

80 1:24.048 -0.604

81 1:24.173 +0.125

82 1:24.057 -0.116

83 1:23.858 -0.199

84 1:24.548 +0.69

85 1:31.253 +6.705 (??????)

86 1:23.453 -7.8

87 1:23.073 -0.38

88 1:25.199 +2.126

89 1:24.273 -0.926

90 1:22.872 -1.401

91 1:22.697 -0.175

92 1:23.219 +0.522

93 1:22.736 -0.483

94 1:22.641 -0.095

95 ----

96 1:22.641

97 1:22.071 -0.57

98 1:23.808 +1.737

99 1:22.263 -1.545

100 1:22.375 +0.112

101 1:23.098 +0.723

102 1:22.835 -0.263

106 1:23.806 +0.971

107 ----

108 1:22.422

109 1:22.058 -0.364

110 1:21.959 -0.099

111 1:21.850 -0.109

112 1:22.101 +0.251

113 1:22.483 +0.382

114 1:22.042 -0.441

115 ----

116 1:22.042

117 1:21.811 -0.231

118 1:21.959 +0.148

119 1:22.156 +0.197

120 1:22.289 +0.133

121 1:22.736 +0.447

122 1:22.617 -0.119

123 1:22.600 -0.017

 

[snowy]

Why do we bother?

I posted this at F1Technical.net and I thought perhaps I would say it here too just in case anyone here was wondering why we bother following and discussing testing. Here are my thoughts:

I've been following winter testing for a number of years now and whilst it is clear that the teams do try to mask or beef up their true pace, they are actually not particularly good at it. Or should I say they don't put an enormous amount of effort into it. They are aware that the other teams have eyes and ears and it isn't particularly difficult for the opposition to determine your strengths, weaknesses and your performance.

Last season it was immediately obvious that Red Bull were strong and that Ferrari were not particularly quick. It was also patently obvious that McLaren and Renault were incredibly slow. Along came Brawn GP and all the talk was of light fuel, glory runs and under weight, it only took one long run to reveal all. The reality was immediately evident yet few commentators were ready to embrace it.

We don't have the luxury of a massive shift in regulations, the field is a lot tighter and the weather has been throwing a curve ball but it will still be possible to determine where the teams stand before the first race of the season.

Why do we bother following and discussing testing?
It is because we are human beings and it is in our nature to want to know what is happening and why. Without developing the ability to predict what may or may not happen, our lives would be full of surprises and novelty! However, not all the surprises and novelties will be to our liking and a lot of unpleasant things could actually have been avoided. Knowing what F1 teams are up to and pondering why, may not seem particularly constructive but it is our way of exercising a most important cognitive muscle.

Being able to tell who is well informed, intuitive, misguided, speculative, arrives at conclusions logically or tangentally is also an essential part of our social armoury. Whether you base your decisions and predictions on your gut feeling or logical consideration of all available data, you still can't escape the fact that you are seeking to know the world better.

The boffins say McLaren & Red Bull, then Ferrari, then Mercedes, BMW Sauber...

Snowy says Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull?, Mercedes, BMW Sauber... But I haven't been trackside watching the cars, so my gut isn't fully engaged.

 

[Brogan]

Well said snowy

 

[Fenderman]

Hello Folk's. Just popped in to say thanks to Snowy for giving me the heads up about this site and forum. It's head and shoulders above the rest so keep up the quality folk's. love it.

 

[snowy]

A little more detail on Lewis' glory run at the end of day 4:

1?19.952
1?19.684
1?19.583
1?28.133
1?19.992

 

[snowy]

Cheers Bro and Hi Fenderman! Welcome aboard.

 

[Brogan]

Hello Folk's. Just popped in to say thanks to Snowy for giving me the heads up about this site and forum. It's head and shoulders above the rest so keep up the quality folk's. love it.

Thanks Fenderman, welcome to the site

Just a heads up, but in addition to the usual F1 Fantasy League which hasn't kicked off yet, we're also running a teammate head-to-head competition.
Closing date for entries is midnight Thursday 11 March.

Check it out here: F1 Teammate Prediction 2010

 

[snowy]

Rubens Barrichello 10 lap stint:

1?27.014
1?21.768
1?20.341
1?20.469
1?20.443
1?21.017
1?21.147
1?21.66
1?21.755
1?22.305

Adrian Sutil 9 lap stint:

1?20.253
1?20.180
1?20.573
1?22.007
1?21.543
1?22.035
1?22.492
1?23.169
1?23.875

Sebastian Vettel 10 lap stint:

1?21.427
1?21.423
1?31.349
1?21.203
1?21.656
1?21.980
1?22.230
1?22.174
1?22.193