Pre-Season F1 2022

[GeoffP]

isnt it fortunate we’re not stuck in history where cars were moved from hazardous positions and drivers had to avoid everything else as if they had a steering wheel and a learning brain

 

[Il_leone]

Anyone bored with one driver and team running away with both championships yet?

We ve had that before in the 90's and 00's and 10's. I don't mind it's Leclerc or Sainz both got better class than Verstappen. It's good for F1 that Ferrari are back

Had it been Verstappen with Horner and Marko blowing his trumpet every week they will turn a lot of people away from F1

 

[cider_and_toast]

My favourite part is how the safety car either ****s you up or benefits you massively, purely based on where you are on the circuit when it is deployed.

It's a very American thing isn't it. It's a waste of time watching the first 195 laps of Indy 500 because the number of Yellow flags and pace cars screw the race up royally.

Probably the easiest solution to help in F1 would be to drop the mandatory pit stop bollocks.

 

[F1Brits_90]

the rumour around the paddock according to sky sports is that we will be doing back to back Singapore instead of Russia

 

[Il_leone]

the rumour around the paddock according to sky sports is that we will be doing back to back Singapore instead of Russia

Different configuration then ?

 

[Il_leone]

Makes sense logistically

The only I can think of us if they race heading the other direction

 

[F1Brits_90]

Different configuration then ?

i would assume that it will be alot like styria & austria same race twice effectively. but i expect with the 3 races in 3 weeks that logistically it would make sense

 

[FB]

I can't imagine they could run the race backwards as the run off areas and barriers are all in the wrong place and it would be a major job to rework it.

Has anyone asked Brands Hatch if they have a date free?

 

[sobriety]

Or Donnington Park

 

[Dartman]

Unfortunately neither of those two have F1 circuit accreditation

 

[cider_and_toast]

Unfortunately neither of those two have F1 circuit accreditation

Neither has the Las Vegas strip but we'll be there next year.

 

[FB]

Money talks, mmm, mmm, money talks
Dirty cash I want you, dirty cash I need you, ooh

 

[Dartman]

Neither has the Las Vegas strip but we'll be there next year.

Yes, but as FB posts money talks and Las Vegas appears to have the money, Donnington was nearly destroyed last time they tried to upgrade it and Brands apparently has no ambition to upgrade to F1 standards after Silverstone was given the the British GP contract apparently forever. Both would need some guarantee for future events for an investment of that nature, I have no knowledge of Donnington but Brands would be very difficult to upgrade due to its topography, unfortunately as much as I would like to see a return to Brands Hatch.

 

[cider_and_toast]

Yes, all very true but the point still stands, it's not about not having an FIA accreditation, it's about not having the cash. If there was a will there would be a way.

Just because Brands would be way to small and narrow to host a GP wouldn't make a difference if a rich Middle Eastern chap decided he fancied watching a race there.

 

[F1Brits_90]

but money has always been the biggest factor. started by Bernie way before my time. we werent going to Hungary in 80s, Bahrain, Malaysia, China, Abu Dhabi in 00s because they were hot beds of F1

 

[F1Brits_90]

although i agree that you dont want customer cars, nobody was complaining about haas for the last 2 years

Haas and McLaren at odds over controversial F1 rule

Haas team boss Guenther Steiner is "beyond frustrated" about the topic of shared knowledge and personnel transfer between outfits that are politically aligned.

racingnews365.com

 

[The Artist.....]

although i agree that you dont want customer cars, nobody was complaining about haas for the last 2 years

Haas and McLaren at odds over controversial F1 rule

Haas team boss Guenther Steiner is "beyond frustrated" about the topic of shared knowledge and personnel transfer between outfits that are politically aligned.

racingnews365.com

True - but people were bitterly complaining about TRacing Point back in 2020...

 

[F1Brits_90]

True - but people were bitterly complaining about TRacing Point back in 2020...

its the hypocritical nature of F1 they only care about teams breaking the rules if they are competitive . as proven with mercedes zeropods. huge uproar, 2 weeks nobody cares if they legal as Lewis went out in Q1

https://twitter.com/x/status/1516387240884195328

 

[Dartman]

First rule in F1, complain, report or object to any competitor more successful than you for any action or innovation you either haven't thought of or can't include in your present car within an early timeframe.

 

[The Artist.....]

its the hypocritical nature of F1 they only care about teams breaking the rules if they are competitive . as proven with mercedes zeropods. huge uproar, 2 weeks nobody cares if they legal as Lewis went out in Q1

https://twitter.com/x/status/1516387240884195328

I'm not sure that that's true. Back in 1995, there was huge furore about Ligier suddenly presenting a car that was (frankly) a carbon copy of the B195 (whilst back in the day, it was said that there wasn't a single interchangeable part, it has since emerged that Ligier engineers came into the Benetton factory, in Benetton team kit, used the Benetton moulds to produce their aero parts, and shipped them off to the Ligier factory).

New Ligier causes controversy

The Ligier-Mugen Honda JS41 - launched at Magny-Cours last Thursday - has stirred up discontent among rival Formula 1 teams, which claim that the car is a Benetton with Gitanes sponsorship.

www.grandprix.com

Similarly, Sauber's 2004 car was basically a carbon-copy of the 2003 Ferrari:

Sauber Speak - Sauber News - a new car and a new controversy

Recent Sauber news, including the C23's first test and the controversy over the team's strengthened ties with Ferrari. | Sauber Speak : Unofficial Sauber F1 news, views and message boards.

m.f1network.net

I've never quite got on top of Super Aguri's use of year-old BAR chassis - even if they had been sold the intellectual rights, it still hadn't been designed in house.

Prodrive had signed up to compete in F1 in 2008(?), with Mercedes engines, and year-old McLaren chassis

The FIA owe Prodrive an apology · RaceFans

Tomorrow it will be 19 months since the FIA confirmed that Prodrive would be the 12th team in Formula 1 in 2008. Last week David Richards confirmed what many people had suspected for a long time: that Prodrive will not be racing in F1 next year. Prodrive’s absence next year is because the FIA...

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