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Message: [QUOTE="Mryzyz, post: 54082, member: 148"] What I like to do, is subjectively determine the order of the speed of cars, then say 'par' is beating everyone in a slower car. So with an order of: Red Bull McLaren Ferrari Merc Renault Sauber Force India Toro Rosso Williams Lotus Virgin HRT We get: Heidfeld -4 Barrichello -4 Buemi -3 Hamilton -2 Kobayashi -2 Sutil -2 Trulli -2 D'Ambrosio -2 Liuzzi -2 Vettel -1 Alonso -1 Rosberg -1 Petrov -1 Kovalainen -1 Karthikeyan -1 Button PAR Webber +1 Alguersuari +1 Massa +2 Di Resta +2 Glock +2 Schumacher +3 Perez +3 Maldonado +4 Of course this is daft for a number of reasons. [/QUOTE]