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Message: [QUOTE="FB, post: 40189, member: 120"] I can't agree with you there John. Alonso started with Minardi, Senna with Toleman, Prost in the pre-RD McLaren team, Lauda at March, Hakkinen at the post-CC Lotus, Keke Rosberg at Wolf and then Fittipaldi, Damon Hill at the post-BE Brabham team, even Schumie did one race with Jordan and Vettel a season at STR. World Champions one and all, all starting out in less than competitive cars. Hamilton is almost unique in sitting in an uber competitive car in his first season in F1 (no criticism, he deserved the seat despite what David Coulthard had to say at the time), I would think Jackie Stewart is the only one who comes close finishing 3rd in the drivers title race in a BRM back in 1965. Perhaps one day Senna will get into a faster car and prove his ability. Let's see how "quick" Nick fairs over the next few races, we might yet see him in the Lotus Renault. [/QUOTE]