How stupid are Sauber?

[snowy]

This perhaps warrants a thread all its own but for now I'll just ask the question here...

HOW STUPID ARE SAUBER?

Two courts have ruled that they have breached a contract with Giedo van der Garde and that he should race for Sauber in 2015 season. Apparently they are appealing against Supreme Court Justice Clyde Croft's latest decision, the appeal will be heard today. With hundreds of thousands if not millions at stake, I want to know how a professional F1 team gets themselves into a situation like this? Surely someone on the team has dropped a huge bollock and should be sacked.

 

[FB]

Didn't Sutil have a contract for 2015 as well?

 

[Brogan]

Yup.

The legal trouble suddenly surrounding the Sauber Formula One team involves not only Giedo van der Garde, who is suing to retain his seat for the 2015 season, but former driver Adrian Sutil. Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports that Sutil, another driver originally promised a 2015 seat, has filed a suit in Switzerland, seeking "compensation rather than a forced reinstatement" from the Hinwil-based team.

http://www.topix.com/formula1/adrian-sutil/2015/03/150306T7K3I1

 

[snowy]

Sauber has flushed itself down the toilet!
They are basing their appeal on safety grounds, saying that they do not want to jeopardise the safety of any other driver on the track, by having an unprepared driver their car.

I can't see that working.

 

[Brogan]

I made a similar comment elsewhere earlier.

Their defence is very weak and I can't see it resulting in the original ruling being overturned.

 

[teabagyokel]

You have to wonder about the professionalism of a team who employ four people for two jobs.

 

[cider_and_toast]

The thing is that lower order teams bench their drivers as a mater of course sometimes. Just look at Caterham last year benching Kobyashi. Surely all Sauber have to do is say to VDG, ok, you can go to Australia but you're not running. They must be able to do that within the contracts surely?

 

[teabagyokel]

Unless the contracts are written monumentally badly - which in light of this farce scarcely seems unlikely.

 

[FB]

The joys of having a lawyer as team principal...

 

[Mephistopheles]

You have to wonder about the professionalism of a team who employ four people for two jobs.

Sounds like the council maintenance division three people watching one person work.

 

[teabagyokel]

Unlikely that the court has ordered them to, though.

 

[Brogan]

HOW STUPID ARE SAUBER?

About as stupid as van der Garde who apparently doesn't have a Super License.

 

[siffert_fan]

Is it at the point now where any added money that the newest drivers brought to the team will now, in all likelihood, have to be spent paying off the old drivers, meaning the team has netted nothing by changing drivers?

 

[soccerman17]

What happens if van der Garde doesn't race? The court has no power to enforce the ruling, so who does? Anybody?

 

[P1]

What happens if van der Garde doesn't race? The court has no power to enforce the ruling, so who does? Anybody?

Could the court arrest Saubers principal for contempt or obstruction of justice.

http://www.mondaq.com/x/151402/Crim...Court+Order+Could+Land+You+In+Serious+Trouble

 

[rufus_mcdufus]

So Sauber could see their assets in Australia sequestered, and potentially Kaltenborn is facing jail. It's all gone a bit Pete Tong.

 

[Brogan]

What a crazy situation with just a few hours before the first session of the new season.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2015/03/12/giedo-van-der-garde-sauber-has-to-work-with-us-now/

 

[FB]

A Super Licence usually takes 2 weeks to go through the system at the FIA. I can imagine Sauber are asking the people in the Place de la Concorde to move as slowly as possible.

 

[Dartman]

He only needs a renewal, the last ran out in December, you can bet your sweet, ? it's over half way through, or VDG is really a pillock..

 

[Greenlantern101]

So the appeal was thrown out. This sets an amazing precedent for all other drivers and teams, now and in the future.

It looks like contracts are actually worth much more than the paper they are written on. Who'd of thunk it.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/1...r-court-rules-giedo-van-der-garde-should-race