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Constructors Who Have Won In F1 - Tyrell
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<blockquote data-quote="Pyrope" data-source="post: 48417" data-attributes="member: 1109"><p>Very interesting TBY, thanks! For a team that started in a woodshed, Tyrrell were a surprisingly engineering-led bunch. Ok, so 001 was more than a bit of a lash-up, but 003 was one of F1's all-time greats, and the 005/006 series were a case study in how to design a car to suit one driver's preferences. The fact that Cevert managed to keep up with JYS in those hyper-twitchy cars (and many in the team thought he was actually the faster of the two in the second half of 1973) shows just how good he could have been. I think his loss at the end of 1973 ripped a hole in Ken's team that was never really healed. Him as team #1 and Jody as #2 in 1974 would have been a much stronger pairing than Depailler made, and might have given them that crucial base from which to build. P34 should have scored more than it did, but Scheckter's ambivalence to its design and the lack of tyre development scuppered that, too. With the team losing all of its results in 1984 it is easy to overlook just how good the 012 was. Most of the time Martin and Stefan were mixing it with the lower turbo teams, and Bellof was third in Monaco and Brundle second in Detroit. How much of that was due to Uncle Ken's special "heavy water" I don't know, but the FIA's handling of that incident still smells more like a stitch-up than a real infringement. How little times change. Anyway, I think their last really interesting car was the 019, which Harvey Postlethwaite used to introduce the high nose concept to F1. Alesi made very good use of that, but yet again Ken wasn't able to build on it and the team was dead a few years later.</p><p></p><p>I have always wondered whether Tyrrell's demise wasn't actually because of Ken, rather than despite him as many seem to think. All of the other major players of the late '60s and early '70s were able to stay competitive right into the 1980s, yet Tyrrell withered fairly fast after Stewart left. It does lead you to wonder who it was that was the effective motivational force in reality.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pyrope, post: 48417, member: 1109"] Very interesting TBY, thanks! For a team that started in a woodshed, Tyrrell were a surprisingly engineering-led bunch. Ok, so 001 was more than a bit of a lash-up, but 003 was one of F1's all-time greats, and the 005/006 series were a case study in how to design a car to suit one driver's preferences. The fact that Cevert managed to keep up with JYS in those hyper-twitchy cars (and many in the team thought he was actually the faster of the two in the second half of 1973) shows just how good he could have been. I think his loss at the end of 1973 ripped a hole in Ken's team that was never really healed. Him as team #1 and Jody as #2 in 1974 would have been a much stronger pairing than Depailler made, and might have given them that crucial base from which to build. P34 should have scored more than it did, but Scheckter's ambivalence to its design and the lack of tyre development scuppered that, too. With the team losing all of its results in 1984 it is easy to overlook just how good the 012 was. Most of the time Martin and Stefan were mixing it with the lower turbo teams, and Bellof was third in Monaco and Brundle second in Detroit. How much of that was due to Uncle Ken's special "heavy water" I don't know, but the FIA's handling of that incident still smells more like a stitch-up than a real infringement. How little times change. Anyway, I think their last really interesting car was the 019, which Harvey Postlethwaite used to introduce the high nose concept to F1. Alesi made very good use of that, but yet again Ken wasn't able to build on it and the team was dead a few years later. I have always wondered whether Tyrrell's demise wasn't actually because of Ken, rather than despite him as many seem to think. All of the other major players of the late '60s and early '70s were able to stay competitive right into the 1980s, yet Tyrrell withered fairly fast after Stewart left. It does lead you to wonder who it was that was the effective motivational force in reality. [/QUOTE]
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