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2013 Singapore Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion
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<blockquote data-quote="Blog Zbod" data-source="post: 218302" data-attributes="member: 2175"><p>The FIA's ineptitude again has created a grey area, ripe for exploitation. If you define traction control as any device capable of preventing the driven wheels spinning under power, then wings are <em>de facto</em> traction control and should be banned. Or maybe this is another exception under that silly "it's not their <strong>primary</strong> purpose" rubric.</p><p></p><p>My suspicion is that this system works by boosting the Coandă-created downforce by that TR-permissible 50 ms in advance of boosting the power, so the increase in downforce comes in advance of the increase in torque. So instead of the tyres being dependent on a rise in road speed for the additional grip, the additional grip comes first, before it is required. The driver trades an instant's lack of throttle response for an extra measure of downforce. Like turbo lag, you learn just put your foot down that instant sooner and trust that the grip will be there.</p><p></p><p>But I doubt Whiting will be reversed this time, because the FIA are fully aware what Red Bull are up to. Niki Lauda was quoted saying that the FIA were aware what RBR were doing when they were developing this system, and retooled it (at least once) to circumvent the FIA's reservations, which presumably is what they're running now.. So this isn't likely to turn out like the flexy front wing or the hinged tea tray. The FIA already know and approve.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which raises the question, how can exhaust overrun through an EBD constitute a moveable aerodynamic device and this not? Or maybe that's just evidence that my downforce-before-torque theory is off the mark.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blog Zbod, post: 218302, member: 2175"] The FIA's ineptitude again has created a grey area, ripe for exploitation. If you define traction control as any device capable of preventing the driven wheels spinning under power, then wings are [I]de facto[/I] traction control and should be banned. Or maybe this is another exception under that silly "it's not their [B]primary[/B] purpose" rubric. My suspicion is that this system works by boosting the Coandă-created downforce by that TR-permissible 50 ms in advance of boosting the power, so the increase in downforce comes in advance of the increase in torque. So instead of the tyres being dependent on a rise in road speed for the additional grip, the additional grip comes first, before it is required. The driver trades an instant's lack of throttle response for an extra measure of downforce. Like turbo lag, you learn just put your foot down that instant sooner and trust that the grip will be there. But I doubt Whiting will be reversed this time, because the FIA are fully aware what Red Bull are up to. Niki Lauda was quoted saying that the FIA were aware what RBR were doing when they were developing this system, and retooled it (at least once) to circumvent the FIA's reservations, which presumably is what they're running now.. So this isn't likely to turn out like the flexy front wing or the hinged tea tray. The FIA already know and approve. Which raises the question, how can exhaust overrun through an EBD constitute a moveable aerodynamic device and this not? Or maybe that's just evidence that my downforce-before-torque theory is off the mark. [/QUOTE]
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