Things ... Welcome to the Future (2018 - 2019 Silly Season)

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  1. Il_leone

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    Red Bull or should I say Helmut has really burned a lot of promising young drivers career too early . By going with Kyvat and Hartley, Red Bull have effectively admitted defeat that their young driver programme has become flawed or just unable to produce new talent

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    One more set at Williams either someone with lots of money to replace Stroll's money, Sirotkin but has not done quite enough to stay on, Kubica - the fairy tale comeback or someone else.

    Ocon ? - Interesting if he does get it because then he would be expected to lead and beat Russell and put a case for being promoted to Merc which Toto believes in.

    Russell at Williams and Norris at Mclaren... the last two British world champions were given their debuts in F1 by these two legendary teams but these two will be bringing up the rear
     
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  3. Il_leone

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    Is it still possible for Alexander Albon to join Toro Rosso have just signed a contract with DAMS Nisson in Formula E?

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  4. F1Brits_90

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    without doubt red bull asked too much too soon. they expect vettel & Verstappen to be the norm, instead of the expection, when you think Alguersari Kyvat (1st time) Buemi & Vergne were Binned at 21 23 23 & 24. which is crazy when you think of the talented world champions like Schumacher, Hakkinen,Hamilton & Alonso (Renault) where just starting their career when them 4 were on the red bull scrapheap. maybe they have learnt a great lesson of giving them a chance. remind me of Chelsea in football who have almost ran out of managers to hire. because of rate theyve fired them

    it could be interesting if albon as this would be his schedule 1st 6 rounds are clear but then he wouldnt take part in the 2nd half with clashes in the 2nd half which might mean its an either or (FE in Bold)
    15 December - Saudi Arabia
    12 January - Morocco
    26 January - Chile
    16 February - Mexico
    10 March - Hong Kong

    17 March - Australia
    23 March - China
    31 March, Bahrain
    13 April - Rome 14 April - China
    27 April - Paris 28 April - Azerbaijan
    11 May - Monaco 12 May - Spain
    25 May - Berlin 26 May, Monaco
    9 June, Canada
    22 June - Bern 23 June, France
    30 June, Austria
    13/14 July New York 14 July, Great Britain
     
  5. Angel

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    Williams deputy team principal Claire Williams says Force India driver Esteban Ocon is on the team's shortlist to partner George Russell next year.
    Williams: Ocon is still on 2019 shortlist


    I just saw this. So maybe it's not as over yet for Ocon as we thought.
     
  6. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    That basically makes Williams Merc B-Team. I suspect they have been that for a while though.
     
  7. F1Brits_90

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    Since 2014. Wasnt there (possible stupid) rumours about Williams urged against pressure/overtake a mercedes around monza time.
     
  8. RasputinLives

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    I think I started those rumours on this website :D I certainly remember ranting about it at a certain British Grand Prix.
     
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  9. Il_leone

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    I think the pairing of Ocon and Russell will do a lot better than Sirotkin and Stroll

    In other series I;ve seen Mercedes run junior teams or pair 1 senior driver with 1 junior driver so I for one am not surprised if Williams becomes a Merc B Team much to the annoyance of Lawrence Stroll who wanted Williams to be a Merc B Team but has now divested his money out of the team

    I wish Frank Williams was still calling the shots at Williams and playing hard ball in this situation ... maybe they can get free engines and Mercedes pay the driver salaries

    At Williams Ocon would be able to show he has the qualities to be a future No 1
     
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  10. RasputinLives

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    To be honest I think they could have had the ghosts of Fangio and Senna driving for them this year and it would have made not the slightest difference. The Williams car is probably the worst they've ever produced.
     
  11. F1Brits_90

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    Which takes some doing because there ate quite a few just that could challenge for that title just this decade. 2010 2012 2016 2017 & 2018 LOL
     
  12. Il_leone

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    RasputinLives I think you will find Fangio and Senna would sort the team better than both Stroll and Sirotkin

    Certainly they would not be last in the championship
     
  13. RasputinLives

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    I think they would. You can't polish a terd.
     
  14. Angel

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    Personally, I wouldn't want to try.

    A driver can only do so much in a crap car, unless they can shove their legs through the bottom and Fred Flintstone it along a bit faster of course. I know some drivers can give advice that helps to develop a car and improve it, but that only does so much. If the car is a dog to start with, you can bet it's still going to be a dog, no matter how you tweak it.
     
  15. F1Brits_90

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    Alonso is proving what you can do in poor car, somehow he is only 3pts off Hulkenburg Perez & Magnussen, outscoring ocon all in far superior cars. but let not kid ourselves because what you cant forget is what kubica said after spain Fp1 when he drove the Williams, talked about being embarrassed at how slow he having to go & the really difficult balance
     
  16. RasputinLives

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    You only have to look at that Williams car going through a corner to see how bad it is. The thing is completely unbalanced. With something that wrong there is nothing any driver can do.
     
  17. Il_leone

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    Its the worst Williams for sure but then I don't think the drivers are capable of helping sort the mess out or at least show resilience in difficult times
     
  18. Angel

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    Force India have finally confirmed that Perez will be driving for them in 2019. Like we didn't already know that anyway.
     
  19. Il_leone

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    Angel :sleeping::yawn: So Perez has been talking up about being a world champion and driving for a team for the last 3 years.....and he is ended up with the same team
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    A waste of a seat but hey then he really has no excuses if he can't Lance Stroll then
     
  20. Il_leone

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    https://www.planetf1.com/news/albon-emerges-as-favourite-for-toro-rosso-drive/

    Rowland in for Albon at Nissan for FE test amid Toro Rosso F1 talk

    https://www.crash.net/f1/news/907816/1/horner-albon-links-toro-rosso-just-speculation-moment

    The rumours about Albon has picked up in the last few days with now Wehrlein going to Formula E and Schumacher Jnr expected to go into F2 and Ticktum still not earning enough points to be in F1

    Horner has just admitted its pure speculation but given Dams who confirmed as one of their drivers for next season have had to revert to Rowland confirms

    - Talks have been happening and Albon has not been able to test the car much to Dams annoyance
    - Rowland is properly considered only an outside shot for the Williams seat
     
  21. Greenlantern101

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    No No No No No No Noooooooooooo

    Gutierrez aiming for F1 return with Williams
     

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