Current Valtteri Bottas

Discussion in 'Drivers' started by RasputinLives, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Do both drivers get "party mode" and if so do they get it at the same races Galahad ?
     
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  3. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    I've been of the belief for a while now that it's not Bottas ability that's stopping him be up there with the current best but his belief in his abilities. He just needs a bit of confidence I reckon. Maybe a good psychological coach or something.
     
  4. Titch

    Titch Champion Elect Premium Contributor

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    RasputinLives could such a coach actually instill a killer instinct. That blinding will to win?
     
  5. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    I dont believe so, because F1 for the most part is instinctive you have to make decisions yourself. If you hesitate you lose out & put yourself in danger with half hearted move. I had high hopes of bottas & Silverstone was a great defence but he is seemingly fallen in to kimi territory last yr albeit through some bad luck & that hamilton/vettel are just on a different level
     
  6. Angel

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    Bottas is semingly a nice guy but he doesn't have that extra something that makes a good driver a great driver in my opinion. I can't see him winning a championship, I seriously don't think he has it in him to win one sadly.
     
  7. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Obviously I can't answer that, but this chart shows the laptime gain from Q2 to Q3 so far this season. The coloured bar is the mean gain (or loss) - the error bars show the maximum and minimum for individual races.

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    Bottas has averaged the biggest improvement in the field, at 0.663s against 0.586s for Hamilton. Ricciardo is at 0.655s despite the apparent lack of a "party mode" - draw your own conclusions.
     
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  8. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    I hope the butler retires. One lacklustre performance after the other and when he’s actually got the pace he surrenders his position. What a wimp.
     
  9. RasputinLives

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  10. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    so based on back half of 2017 & 2018. when is ocon seat fitting

    Wolff sets target for Bottas to keep Mercedes seat

    Valtteri Bottas must perform at the same level as Lewis Hamilton this season if he is going to keep his race seat at Mercedes for 2020, says team boss Toto Wolff. "Valtteri knows exactly where he needs to be next year, He needs to have all the bad luck gone and perform on a level with Lewis. that is what is needed for the 2020 year. He knows very well that, and he has that in him."
     
  11. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    So Bottas' problems aree down tto bad luck? Surely he cannot be dropped for that.:rolleyes:
     
  12. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    I reckon the F1 world will have forgotten about Ocon by about June and all the talk will be of George Russell moving into the seat. F1 world and fans are very fickle when something is not slapping them in the face every other weekend.
     
  13. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    We had all forgotten about Daniel Kvyat, but like a genital wart he keeps coming back.

    Note: the writer of this post has never had genital warts nor does he know if they are something which are recurring. The analogy has been used simply for comedic effect, honest!
     
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  14. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    Yeah but he is part of the Piquet mafia.
     
  15. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    that could be the interesting part because i wouldnt put past Wolff to have guaranteed ocon a 2020 seat without telling bottas. as he seemed a bit calm about leaving

    but i could see a leclerc dejavu with russell
     
  16. RasputinLives

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    Or Lando Norris could prove to be an ace in a crap car after McLaren so they jump in on him. Or Mick Schumacher walks F2 and Merc can't resist. Or Red Bull / Renault turns out to be useless and Verstappen / Ricciardo jumps ship.

    Don't get me wrong I'm a massive Ocon fan but drivers not driving in anything are very quickly forgotten. I'm sure if we flip back 12 months you'll find various articles on how Wehrlein would take year out and be a 'shoe in' for Bottas seat in 2019.
     
  17. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan. Contributor

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    He's a lot better than most give hime credit for.
     
  18. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    There is still a vacant seat at Renault in 2020 so it will be interesting to see if Bottas/ Ocon will be the one replacing Hulkenburg

    Also the Sauber team is run by Bottas/ Hulkenberg's old boss so someone might want to tell Kimi to retire next season if Giovinazzi starts thrashing him

    For Bottas to keep his seat - he's got to stay ahead of Le Clerc and Verstappen because I think Mercedes might not win the constructors this season if Valtteri drops like a stone again
     
  19. RasputinLives

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    I think all Bottas has to do to keep his seat is not upset Hamilton and remind Toto about the juicy signing on bonus he'd get if he resigned him.
     
  20. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    but that's assuming Riccardio will beat B team world champion next season
     
  21. Il_leone

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    Ricciardo has a two year contract so I assume it has a clause which would mean Mercedes or Ferrari would offer a lot of money to break
     

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