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Discussion in 'Gravel Trap' started by Jen, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    4 is mad but the border of 9,11, 13,14 and 16 is mental.
     
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  3. Titch

    Titch Champion Elect Premium Contributor

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    Brogan it’s shocking, and really quite scary. Can anyone stop it happening?
     
  4. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    Republicans have took this one straight out of Mrs Thatcher's playbook. Check out some of the constituencies in Derbyshire in the UK and you'll see our leaders too like to doodle on maps to ensure election wins.
     
  5. cider_and_toast

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    Thankfully the rules concerning the way the Electoral Commission work in the UK have been tightened significantly over the years since Thatcher and it is now far harder to gerrymander.
     
  6. Brogan

    Brogan Leg end Staff Member

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    The US was at it quite a while before Thatcher.

     
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  7. RasputinLives

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    I stand corrected! Thatcher obviously had a chat with Regan!
     
  8. Ruslan

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    This stuff is all pretty embarrassing. The Republicans used to whine and complain all during the 1980s and 1990s that the reason they did not control the House (House of Representatives) was because of Gerrymandering. Yet when they were able to take power...they did not change the laws...instead they went and conducted some of the most disgraceful Gerrymandering since the 1800s. In any state where they had control of the governor and legislature....they had a field day. It got real nasty in Texas.

    Anyhow, the kicker is that they cannot change district lines unless the next census has the state gaining or losing a representative (because of population gain or loss). So the next round is after the 2020 census (which is also being fought over) and then the redrawing of districts will start in some states.

    In the end, it is clear example of politics over principles.
     
  9. Brogan

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    Things are becoming so polarised in the US politically, it's probably not far off another civil war ...
     
  10. Ruslan

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    Well, it is polarizing....in part because Gerrymandering creates overly leftist and rightist districts, but is not like they are arguing over "really big" issues. Nothing as serious as what we were seeing in the late 1960s with the Vietnam War, race riots, etc. In the end, they are mostly arguing over tax rates, abortion, gun rights, health insurance and immigration. On a couple of these issues, there is a clear majority opinion, even if does not represent the beliefs of the party in power right now.
     
  11. cider_and_toast

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48813656

    Heard a rumour the civil service are going to employ Dame Shami Chakrabarti to conduct the inquiry.

    LOL
     
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    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Is being an a***hole now a recognised medical condition?
     
  13. cider_and_toast

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    I see The Sun are getting all excited because their boy Boris has said he'd get rid of (in their words) this rediculous sugar tax that only hurts the poor.

    I've never understood that comment. Do poor people only drink full sugar drinks and not give a monkeys about their health then?
     
  14. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    If you want to know what poor people eat cider_and_toast read George Orwell's "The Road to Wigan Pier".
     
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  15. cider_and_toast

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    I visited Wigan Pier once. Not impressed.

    I've read 1984 but that's all.
     
  16. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan. Contributor

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    Blessed are the Cheesemakers.
     
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  17. Brogan

    Brogan Leg end Staff Member

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    This is essentially politics in the US under trump.

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    For reference: Seth Abramson on Twitter

    To sum up - Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on Saturday for sex trafficking of minors. He previously secretly cut a deal with Alexander Acosta, the US attorney in Miami, to stay out of jail and have all the evidence sealed.
    Trump appointed Acosta as the secretary of labor.

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  18. RasputinLives

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    Been following this one. The video below is from over a year ago. A guy simply holds up a picture of Trump and Epstein together and watch Trump's reaction.

    Claude Taylor on Twitter
     
  19. Brogan

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    I expect there are many more involved.
    The Clintons for a start - Bill took 20+ flights on the "lolita express" plane.

    But trump's base just respond the same every time - "others did worse", "I don't care, he's the best president ever", "Donald only ****ed a few porn stars, Obama ****ed the whole country", "I'd rather be a Russian than a democrat", etc.

    It's like a ****ing cult.
     
  20. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan. Contributor

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    Change your keyboard Brogan
     
  21. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    This is the state of the world we live in. So much hate and division.

    I had to laugh recently when I challenged someone on Facebook. I was called a snowflake which is the generic description used mainly by the right to describe someone who has a different opinion.

    I pointed out that they were the ones who were being easily offended and that I couldn't care less about the thing that was winding the poster up. Then I pointed out that surely made the poster a snowflake and not me. Cue a load more vitriol.

    To quote Blur. Modern life is rubbish. :(
     

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