The pedantic, speeling and grammer thread's

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  1. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #dejavu Valued Member

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    Egin? What does Egin mean?
     
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  3. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    Sorry Ninja, still not perfect. :)
     
  4. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    The whole rhyme is — I before E except after C or when sounded as A, as in neighbour or weigh

    But yes it is a stupid rule as there are a multitude of exceptions to it and should be banned....

     
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  5. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    One exception is "their". However, this word means "belonging to them" so is perfectly logical.
     
  6. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Words that do follow the rule because they sound like A

    beige, deign, feign, eight, feign, feint, freight, weight, veil, vein, rein, heir, neighbour

    Words that don't follow the rule (Note some of these words have I before E even after C and they don't sound like A)

    cleidoic, codeine, conscience, deify, deity, dreidel, eider, either, feisty, foreign, forfeit, gneiss, greige, greisen, heifer, heigh-ho, height, heinous, heist, leitmotiv, neigh,, neither, peignoir, prescient, science, seiche, seidel, seine, seismic, seize, sheik, society, sovereign, surfeit, teiid, weir, weird.
     
  7. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    English is about as logical as organic chemistry...
     
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  8. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan. Contributor

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    I learned how to spell with the assistance of rhymes, acronyms and rules of thumb. Strangely, I also had to learn how to spell without them, just because i before e cannot be applied in every case doesn't mean that it's impossible to learn how to spell both those words which comply and those which do not.
     
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  9. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    But in spelling if a rule does not cover every instance then it is meaningless,,,,
     
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  11. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    And I only listed 37 of the 126 of them :(
     
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  12. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Similar things happen in other languages. In German two syllable nouns are feminine except for those which are obviously masculine, e.g. Lowe, Junge etc.

    One of the things that makes English so rich is that words whish are either spelt the same or sound the same can have totally different meanings according to context, in other words multi usage.

    I used to work at a joint venture company which was half British, half French. There was a mission statement in both languages, the French one was over a third longer than the one in English.

    btw it was a great party tonight and the booze was flowing freely. I apologise if I am not totally clear. Sod it, no, I couldn't care less.
     
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  13. ExtremeNinja

    ExtremeNinja Karting amateur Contributor

    I wasn't aiming for perfect. I was aiming for legible. ;)
     
  14. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    But this is the 'pedantic' thread - perfection is compulsory :snigger:
     
  15. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #dejavu Valued Member

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    Actually, jenov2003, it is acceptable to be deliberately wrong for comic effect.
     
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  16. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    You sure?
     
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  17. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #dejavu Valued Member

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    Yes. For example, the thread title is deliberately incorrect.
     
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  18. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    Ah, I see what you mean teabagyokel - but that does open up the possibility of claiming comedy when actually one hasn't the faintest idea! :twisted:

    Obviously not the case with the thread title (look who wrote it!), so that means one has to have previous knowledge of the poster and then make a judgement as to the intention - blimey. A linguistic "it weren't me guv!" 8-)
     
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  19. Josh

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    Its!!!

    For a pedant that was a terrible mistake!
     
  20. ExtremeNinja

    ExtremeNinja Karting amateur Contributor

    I get that one wrong all the time. I think the English language is wrong on this one but I think I might have to give way.

    When I ask where Peter's house is, what am I abbreviating with the apostrophe that I am not when I ask what colour its front door is?
     
  21. Josh

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    I'm never really sure what you're abbreviating with your first example, is or his? His makes the most sense, but then again you can have: look at Jen's posts (or is that Jens?) which wouldn't make sense if it's his or her that's being abbreviated.
     
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