Discussion in 'Gravel Trap' started by mjo, Oct 24, 2011.
It's all going down the shitter because of liars and idiots.
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No-deal Brexit would harm EU countries as well as UK, warns IMF
Time to stack up on grow bags and seeds, and maybe a pig, a goat and a chicken or two. Not sure where to keep them.
Bill Boddy as if I would. AnywayI don't see too many people out there buying livestock.
A news item suggesting we all panic buy will lead to panic buying
Angellica . The media is creating the news.... again .... instead of reporting it. The BBC in particular.
Sadly, I think that utter omnishambles that is Brexit would be repeated on a slightly smaller scale if Scotland leaves the UK. The parallels are there for all to see.
I do think that Brexit will intensify the debate up your way and if it is as shambolic as it looks like it will be, it will be one hell of a stick for the nationalists to beat the drum with. The Northern Irish border question will certainly act as a dry run for managing EU / Scotland / UK relations in the event of an independence yes vote.
Oh yes, the BBC are terrible for that kind of thing.
The DUP are getting more voluble and are making it clear that unless they get their way they will vote down the budget or anything else which looks important.
Chequers is still the system that the PM favours but at least 40 Conservative MPs have said that they will vote against it so Mrs May will need Labour to support it to get it passed.
Canada++++++++++++++++ seems to be favoured, either that or Norway according to who you are listening to amongst the Boris Johnson/Ree-Mogg grouping but they do not have enougn numbers to get it passed without Labour support.
The less said about the SNP the better, if we leave the EU they will want independence as they will if by some miracle we stay.
Labour want an election to get into power so have a vested interested in voting against unless what is put before them satisfies six points which no-one is quite sure what they are about.
All the Conservatives support Mrs May and there seem to be none who will commit to voting against her, in public anyway.
UKIP want us to leave without any further discussion as a hard Brexit will lead us to the Elysian Fields and instant deals with the US and all the Commonwealth countries as well as every other group except the EU with whom we will continue trading.
If you really want to know how strong and divided Northern Ireland is follow this link and then go down to "View Comments", this will disabuse you from holding the viewpoint that any give and take will happen and also that the Peace Process is likely to be kept whatever happens.
May cannot recommend Brexit deal says DUP
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