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Sauber

FIA Entry: Sauber F1 Team
Car 16: Kamui Kobayashi
Car 17: Sergio Perez
Engine: Ferrari V8
Team Principal: Peter Sauber
Technical Director: James Key
Race Engineer Car 16: Francesco Nenci
Race Engineer Car 17:Marco Schupbach

Stats as of end 2010

First Entered 1993
Races Entered 296
Race Wins 1
Pole Positions 1
Fastest Laps 2
Driver World Championships 0
Constructor World Championships 0

The Beginning

Following success in sports car racing Peter Sauber, in collaboration with Mercedes Benz, moved into Formula 1 in 1993. With Ilmor engines Sauber entered the C12 car (the C prefix for Sauber cars coming from Peter Sauber’s wife Christine) driven by Mercedes sports car drivers JJ Lehto and Karl Wendlinger. Lehto finished a creditable 5th in their first race and the cars proved fast but unreliable. When the cars finished they often picked up points with Lehto managing 4th in San Marino and Wendlinger the same placing in Italy.

In 1994 the team became officially Sauber Mercedes as the Ilmor engines were rebadged as Mercedes units. Heinz Harald Frentzen replaced Lehto and the team showed similar pace to the previous season with a number of minor points placings. Wendlinger was replaced, following an accident at Monaco, firstly by Andrea de Cesaris and later in the season by Lehto. Wendlinger’s accident, following closely after the deaths of Senna and Ratzenberger at San Marino, resulted in changes to the design of the cockpit on F1 cars to provide greater head protection in the event of an accident.

Red Bull & Ford

1995 saw Mercedes leave Sauber to supply engines to McLaren. Now armed with Red Bull sponsorship, Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz having bought a stake in the Sauber team, Sauber sourced Ford factory engines. Wendlinger hadn’t recovered well and was replaced early in the season by Jean Christophe Bouillon. Sauber amassed 18 points for the season with Frentzen taking a podium for 3rd in Belgium.

Jonny Herbert partnered Frentzen for 1996 and managed a highest of 3rd at Monaco, with Frentzen 4th, but the team ended the season on their lowest points tally since entering Formula 1 with 11 points

Ferrari Customer

From 1997 to 2005 Sauber used customer Ferrari engines and run under the name of title sponsor Petronas. The tie in with Ferrari extended beyond the supply of engines as Ferrari also provided the Swiss team with technical support.

Jonny Herbert continued with Sauber for 1997 and ’98 and was partnered in ’98 by veteran Jean Alesi. Herbert managed a podiums at Hungary in ’97 and Alesi in Belgium in ’98 but generally Sauber’s performance was fairly ordinary. In 2001 Sauber hired young Finnish driver Kimi Raikkonen amidst protest form other teams due to his lack of experience. Raikkonen scored a point on his debut with teammate Nick Heidfeld 4th in the same race. Raikkonen’s appointment also triggered the sale of Red Bull’s stake in Sauber to Credit Suisse as the Austrian drinks company wanted the seat given to Enrique Bernoldi.

Peter Sauber continued to give drives to promising youngsters with Felipe Massa racing for him in 2004 & 2005 and Robert Kubica replacing Jacques Villeneuve in 2006.

BMW Sauber

For 2006 BMW took a controlling interest in the Sauber team and BMW units replaced Ferrari engines. BMW “works” driver Nick Heidfeld returned to Sauber from Williams and the team finished 2nd in the Constructors Championship behind Ferrari (following the exclusion of the McLaren team). Heidfeld scored points in 14 of the 17 races that season. 2007 also saw the first F1 drive for Sebastien Vettel who substituted for Robert Kubica at the race in Indianapolis following the Pole’s crash in Canada.

2008 saw Sauber take their first Grand Prix win with Kubica victorious in Canada and Heidfeld coming home 2nd. The team scored numerous podiums and claimed 3rd spot in the Constructors Championship.

2009 was a disappointing season following the highs of 2008 as Sauber struggled with changes to design regulations. Heidfeld and Kubica both managed a 2nd place each but the team dropped to 6th in the Constructors Championship. By the end of the season BMW decided to pull out of the sport.

Back to Ferrari

Following BMW’s withdrawal Peter Sauber took back control of his team. Re-equipped with Ferrari engines Sauber signed promising young Japanese driver Kamui Kobayshi alongside returning veteran Pedro de la Rosa. Early season reliability problems blighted the team but by the end of the season, and the replacement of de la Rosa with Nick Heidfeld, Sauber began to score points on a regular basis. Kobayshi managed a highest finish of 6th in Britain and the team ended 8th in the Constructors Championship.

2011

Kobayashi stays with Sauber for 2011 alongside Sergio Perez who brings with him some much-needed sponsorship from Mexican Telecoms company Telmex. The C30 chassis continues with a Ferrari engine.
 
teabagyokel At the moment yes but if Honda show an improvement then they might consider. Also Red Bull have two teams so it is a less of problem disputing which team can Honda supply to like Mclaren does

Renault showed restraint when they were getting hammered by Red Bull back in 2015 but should they have another bust up or somehow Renault decides Team Enstone should get preferential treatment then I can see this possibility
 
If Mclaren drop Honda then Sauber are suddenly an engine manufacturers main focus! Yes it's Honda and it's probably a long haul to get where it needs to be, but that's a hell of a thing for a team at the back of the grid.
 
As I hinted on the McLaren thread; we don't know for sure that it's all about the engine.

The Honda McLaren thing is feeling like Brexit (or any other divorce)... it's always the other half's fault.

Wrong thread; but I find it funny that Red Bull have stopped complaining about Renault these past two seasons now they're up near the top again. But could it also have been down to adjusting to the loss of Newey?

And are McLaren adjusting to the loss of key people too?
 
Honda has admitted more than once that their engines are not fast enough, too heavy, too thirsty and brake down too frequently for inexplicable reasons. I don't think that they are doing this for sandbagging purposes.
 
Last time they built a world-beater, they left it to the staff to run with someone else's engine. They don't seem too clever, F1-wise.
 
Honda has admitted more than once that their engines are not fast enough, too heavy, too thirsty and brake down too frequently for inexplicable reasons. I don't think that they are doing this for sandbagging purposes.

If Honda are sandbagging they don't seem to have grasped the idea of the concept. LOL
 
Confirmed that Sauber will run Honda engines in 2018. Let's face it Honda should have been running at least two teams from the start. Twice the engines being run means twice the data.
 
Mr. Dennis got what he wanted, one team one supplier, one big outcome he didn't see coming.
Many people in 2014 said that Honda should supply two teams.
 
Well if Mclaren make a lot of ground then you can point the finger at Ron for hindering Mclaren's progress

It also means Sauber should in theory stay behind them
 
RasputinLives Wehrlein will go to Force India seeing Perez is badgering on about he needs to move to a top team which will put him up against Ocon again so problem solved for Sauber

What if Sauber then becomes the factory Honda team potentially
 
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