Current Robert Kubica

He's fast, Polish and a bloody brilliant racer. To me Kubica is a special talent and has been very unlucky to not find himself in a top team yet.

The thing i like about Kubica is that he's a trier and never gives in say if he was third and had a sniff of second he'd go and chase the second place man down. He's a much toned down version of Lewis Hamilton IMHO he's great at overtaking (Austrailla 2009) exception and if he was in a better car i think he'd a won more races than the current 1 he stands at.

Kubica made his F1 debut at the Hungrian GP in 2006 replacing the injuried Jacque Villeneuve for BMW Sauber. He'd outqualified teammate Nick Heidfeld at the time and finished the race in 7th place only to be DSQ for been under weight. Since Kubica's first and only Pole Position came at the 2008 Bahrain GP, that same season he'd broke his winning duck and won his current and only race in Canada. Kubica has stood on the podium 12 times and in his 76 race he's scored a total of 273 points.

Sad news broke eariler in the year (2011) that Kubica had been involved in a Rally competition and crashed, his life was said to be in the balance, but he's slowly recovering from nasty injuries he substaned in the accident. It remains to be seen whether Kubica will return to motor-racing. But for me Kubica is a talented driver and if we do see him back on the grid i'd be over the moon.

Whether you like him or not Kubica is a cool guy and one that i'd like to see become Champion if he return's to the sport.

How do you rate Kubica?
 
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I appreciate that there are less points going around at Renault than at, say, Ferrari and I appreciate Massa, Webber and Button were more experienced than Petrov. But Kubica scored 83% of Renault's points last season!

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No-one else got near scoring 5 times as many points as his team mate last year.
 
I did not say that, I mearly said that one grand prix win doesn't make you de facto top 4 material, bare in mind it was with BMW which is hardly a terrible car.

Kubica is probably in the top 10 current drivers but certainly not top 4.

Yes it wasn't a terrible car, yet he was fighting for victory in the 4th fastest car in Fuji, and was in the title challenge up until the second last race when his car wasn't developed, now that to me is great, if he wasn't a top driver, then I doubt he would have acheived this.

I also think his 2010 season is quite underated, consistent as always, he should precision rather than "aggression" as he is usually an aggressive driver, his driving seemed to change, he was more calculated, I don't remember him making a mistake, all that comes to mind is Spa.
 
I doubt that would have been the case had Hamilton and Massa been at the front.

Yes both Ferrari's and McLaren's were disadvantaged from the start, but...

You can say the same for Alonso's "great win" there...

Doesn't hide the fact that Alonso won and Kubica was in contention for victory.
 
Don Meredith once said "If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?". I think that explains it all, doesn't it?
 
I doubt that would have been the case had Hamilton and Massa been at the front.

Hamiton made a mistake while fighting Raikkonen for the lead. That's an error on Lewis' part and has nothing to do with Kubica (who DIDN'T make an error) or the McLaren being poor.

Clearly both Hamilton and Alonso were rating Kubica in 2008 for a reason.
 
Surely the perception of Kubica's quality had much more to do with what Hamilton and Alonso have said about him as far back as late 2008 and early 2009 than it has anything to do with out-scoring Petrov 5-1 in 2010?

We're talking about experts greater than any. Hamilton, Alonso and the like are greater experts than just about anyone else when it comes to commentating on the quality of a Formula One driver circa late 2000s/early 2010s.
 
So what you're saying is, it's people's opinions that are more important than actual results?
 
So what you're saying is, it's people's opinions that are more important than actual results?

Sometimes. Yes.

MCLS, reigning World Champion James Hunt rated Gilles Villeneuve before anyone in Europe heard about him, for instance. It immediately got Villeneuve a McLaren drive alongside Hunt at the British Grand Prix and, just after one race for McLaren (a great drive without a "result"), Enzo Ferrari signed him!

Keke The King will tell you that Keke Rosberg had virtually no "results" in the Fittipaldi in 1981 yet Frank Williams chose the Finn to drive a car that was the defending Constructors' Champions two years running!

If only F1 results mattered then Hamilton wouldn't have gotten a shot at the McLaren seat effectively vacated by Montoya. Lewis had no F1 "results". Yet the 2nd biggest team in F1 history chose him to drive alongside Alonso!

PLUS...We're not talking about just any person's or "people's" opinion here. We're talking Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, for heaven's sake!
 
If only F1 results mattered then Hamilton wouldn't have gotten a shot at the McLaren seat effectively vacated by Montoya. Lewis had no F1 "results". Yet the 2nd biggest team in F1 history chose him to drive alongside Alonso!
He beat the McLaren test driver, that's why he was given the seat.
 
The elbow was deliberately frozen, apparently. Like most of us, I can only go on what I read in the press, and the recent news seems to be that progress stalled somewhat in June, but has picked up again recently. He's not far away from being able to do a simulator run, apparently.
 
I hope he can return to the driver he was before the crash and I hate to be negative but there is strong evidence that this will not be the case. He will almost certainly lose some of his cutting edge mentally and physically, judging by previous F1 drivers who have suffered a similar fate, most recently Massa.
 
It's probably true to say that most drivers who spend a long time out through injury are not as quick when they come back, but it's not always the case. At this point even Robert himself doesn't know, so I'm mystified by a lot of the speculation.
 
There is obviously strong evidence that the accident will have some sort of physical and psychological impact. Whether he can overcome this is anyone’s guess and Sid Watkins has written a few interesting articles on the subject. I thought his accident was limb rather than neurosurgery related? Anyway, even the specialists can’t be sure of the outcome. This is why it’s up for discussion here and it’s only natural people would express varying views.
 
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