Nick Heidfeld

Discussion in 'Drivers' started by HammydiRestarules, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    2008 was probably the evidence people need to know that Nick Heidfeld is not a world class driver ...whether its his fault or not..the fact he struggled and the team decided rather to get him up to speed rather than back what team would take such a decision when your other driver is leading the championship...definitely not Ferrari , Mclaren or Red Bull at most they would offer equal opportunities and keep pushing in the position they were in

    I am afraid in F1 there is not a place for "a solid driver" unless you are happy to contend with picking up points rather than going for wins and podiums like Sauber but even Peter Sauber knew first time round know there was not much more to gain from him

    As for Heidfeld supposedly in contention with Mclaren and Mercedes for 2010..seats..I really think it was a bit of PR spin in that he was available..Mclaren or Martin Whitmarsh already stated he wanted world class drivers not solid drivers and the Mercedes seat...they were really after Schumacher all along.
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  3. Road of Bones

    Road of Bones MTC Mole Premium Contributor

    Nick Heidfeld has taken the natural path for F1 drivers who couldn't quite hang on to their seats:

    Endurance racing in the Lola-Toyota LMP1 for Rebellion. I think he'll prove to be a fine Sportscar racer, much like McNish, Davidson, Gene & Wurz have proved before him - he has the temperament and mechanical sympathy that'll bring the beast home, instead of binning it in a do-or-die manoeuver at the first corner.
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  4. ExtremeNinja

    ExtremeNinja Karting amateur Contributor

    Nice hipster undercut, Nick! See you in Hoxton for the footy later? Don't forget your skinny jeans and miniature hat. :moustache:
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  5. Jos the Boss

    Jos the Boss Champion Elect

    EvilWhippet Are you watching Sky? Your favourite mans on!
  6. Slyboogy

    Slyboogy World Champion Contributor

    Evilwhippet is in Valencia...(he is actually)

    I think I know why.
  7. EvilWhippet

    EvilWhippet Podium Finisher

    I didn't see Le Mans, but apparently Quickolas Nicolas was in the highest finishing non Audi team with a great 4th place?

    Impressive if true.
  8. HammydiRestarules

    HammydiRestarules Di Resta fan :). Contributor

    LOL - you guys.
  9. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Nice to see Heidfeld driving as a guest in the Porsche Cup race at Hockenheim. The commentator made a bit of a thing about how an ex-F1 driver had qualified down in 14th showed just how good the drivers are in the Porsche Cup. It may also show how different driving the Porsches is, especially when free practice was wet.

    Heidfeld managed to get up to 10th before falling back to eleventh before finally getting back to tenth and hence on the leaderboard.

    He rather reminded me of Johnny Herbert in the classic sports car race at the British GP a few years ago. It took Herbert some laps to get used to the idea of drifting the car through the corners, but once he got into it he he drove faster and faster. Although Heodfeld's finishing position looks lowly what it doesn't show is that early on he was dropping back into the hands of the drivers behind him whilst towards the end of the race he was pushing the drivers in front of him.

    I think that he will be making some more guest appearances, it will be interesting to see how he develops.
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  10. Jos the Boss

    Jos the Boss Champion Elect

    The SuperCup commentator on Sky is BBC F1's Ben Edwards!
  11. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    I don't think that he was doing the English commentary at the circuit.
  12. EvilWhippet

    EvilWhippet Podium Finisher

    Nothing he can't do 8-)
  13. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    I didn't know you were so fond of Ben Edwards:snigger:
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  14. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    Oh God.

    Heidfeld does the rounds with the media to try and out himself in contention for a drive again. Nick! its over! You are not wanted anymore now please go away............and take Adrian Sutil with you!
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  15. EvilWhippet

    EvilWhippet Podium Finisher

    Yeah, leave F1 to drivers that make the grid richer like Karthikeyan, De La Rosa, Senna, Petrov and Vergne. You know, guys who've earned their drives beating top names at the sharp end...
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  16. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    Yes Whippet and lets fill the grid with those drivers like Heidfeld, Trulli and Sutil who have had their chances over and over again and not dobe anything with them whilst the likes of Pic, Razia, Bird, Bianchi and Bottas wait on the sidelines waiting to see how long it takes Nick to completely blitz Andre De Cessaires out the records book.
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  17. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #dejavu Valued Member

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    RasputinLives - Come now, de Cesaris retired from 148 Grands Prix, Heidfeld has retired from 48. A modern era, mechanically sympathetic and non-crash prone driver such as Heidfeld was never going to dethrone de Cesaris from his DNF record.
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  18. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Of course the burning question is will quick nick, yon bearded one ever be back in F1 personally I think he has a better chance than Kubica of making a return.
  19. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan. Contributor

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    Fight, fight, fight, fight.........,..,,
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  20. EvilWhippet

    EvilWhippet Podium Finisher

    Looks like you're playing stupid. Looks like you're winning too. 8-)

    My genuine view on the subject of Heidfeld returning?

    I doubt a top team would let him in, but if they had during his best years he would've made as big an impact as anyone. A shame he was never put in a genuine front runner. I've moaned before about Mercede's mistake in not giving him a race seat in favour of an up and coming hype job and a formerly great driver and currently average one.

    Now he's been out of it he may be like Cutty from The Wire - "The game; it ain't in me no mo'."

    A driver of his ability and class deserved a better end to his F1 career, and the sport should've treated him, but as they say: The game stay the game. Mother****er.

    Maybe F1 is reserved for the selfish. Heidfeld's first action after getting that brilliant podium in Malaysia was writing a letter to Robert Kubica saying he'd had Robert's name and the Polish flag on his helmet to show Kubica's fans he's still a part of F1, and then offered encouragement on returning.
    Says it all really.

    Now he's had timeout I doubt he'd contribute as much as could have. A shame, but it's in the past and there's no harm in him finally doing a bit of self promotion!

    As for Trulli and Sutil, Trulli's been stagnating for years but when did Sutil get his chance? When did he get it over and over again? He F'd up royally with glassing a team boss but he was among the standout performers in 2011. I'm not a fan of Adrian, but speaking impartially he deserved a drive this year on talent. Definitely the best midfielder of last year and not in the past it pile.
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  21. Josh

    Josh Champion Elect

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    At least he went out with a bang...
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