Discussion in 'Drivers' started by HammydiRestarules, Jul 14, 2011.
Although funny, what does that have anything to do with Heidfeld?
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Kimi was the defending champion and leading the WDC until Heidfeld got inside his head, since then he has steadily broken down.
In two years Kimi will be in B&Q trying to milk the lawnmowers and shave the pottery, sad but true.
Can't say Heidfeld didn't though.
Boullier says Heidfeld didn't provide leadership and was slower than Vitaly (which we've said repeatedly only for others to say "but Heidfeld scored the same number of points as Petrov"...)
Anyway, Boullier says there was, as a result, a "negative loop" which needed to be "shaken"...that, when you're slower than Vitaly, it's hard to be seen as a leader.
Only new thing is that he said Nick showed up in Renault gear...It was odd but likely because Nick didn't want to appear in breach of what he thinks is his contract situation.
...so, as long as Nick's "promoting" the team, Boullier's fine with Nick wearing the colours and being in the garage.
I wouldn't celebrate too much on that one Ray as the big elephant in the room Boullier didn't mention is that bringing in Senna for Heidfeld is all about the money money!
Oh and a little about giving a driver he manages a chance to get a seat next year
Do Renault want to take a punt on the mercurial Petrov pulling in some big points every now and again, or do they want Heidfeld to pull in smaller but regular points? Now we have our answer.
Besides, I doubt KUB will return next season, never mind this one. Healing after surgery is one thing, complete rehabilitation to race-fitness is something else altogether.
They have the same highest finish this season and the second highest would've been Heidfeld's had it not been for Kamui "kamikaze" Kobayashi.
Heidfeld beats Petrov. Petrov has a Renault race seat.
Hulkenberg beats Grosjean. Grosjean linked with Renault race seat.
Chandock beat Bruno. Bruno had Renault race seat.
Heidfeld has no drive and Nico and Karun languish in testing positions further down the grid.
The clue is that Petrov only has a couple years experience and bought his way in
To be comparing the two says it all
Quick Nick is done, apart from a starring part in a remake of Das Boot, I doubt we will be seeing much of him on Tv going forward
Plenty of other talented drivers never make it to F1 because they don't have sponsorship or connection like Heidfeld did getting backed by Mercedes then BMW to get him drives and part of that is down to his nationality as well
I am not sure why Heidfeld thought he had a water tight contract for the whole season
A good team player but is sometimes known as Quiet Nick. Until his podium this year he only really shone under changeable conditions through sheer luck recently
At first you say one makes their own luck.
At the end you say he only got decent results through luck.
Seems like your going back on your own words based on what suits your opinion...to me, at least.
Senna's qualifying provided the team with a mental and emotional boost...and made them think about what was possible going forward.
He (/the line-up change/shakeup) helped put the hope back into a team which was on the wane having lost all early-to-mid season momemtum.
Let's face it, Heidfeld wasn't doing anything other than out-scoring a Number 2 pay driver by a measly 2 points.
Hope and Forward Momentum is worth much more than a measly 2 points for a 5th place team under no threat to losing that placing.
The team DID NOT WANT HIM. Period. End of Story.
Once your boss doesn't want you, you get whatever you're rightly due in terms of financial compenstation and accept the fact that you aren't wanted and drive on with the rest of your life.
Nick, Drive On, man!
Hmm. Imagine if Red Bull dropped Vettel mid-season last year when he was getting beaten by Mark Webber.
Or, after the first 4 races of 2010, McLaren declaring that Button was going to be their main title challenger.
Had Heidfeld out-scored a bona fide Number 1 driver by 2 points, it would be a different story...but given where Senna put that car at one of the most challenging circuits in F1, you have to say that neither Petrov nor Heidfeld got what was possible out of their car this year.
No one's accusing Vitaly of being a bonafide team leader and a future World Champion. And, on top of it, Heidfeld's had his 10 or 11 years of chances.
Let's not exaggerate. Spa quail was a mix up. I got a suntan and a wet look all in the space of spectating a single lap.
Edit - I may have exaggerated.
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