Le Mans Le Mans and the WEC

Discussion in 'General Motorsport' started by siffert_fan, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    I am really looking forward to LeMans this year. Audi and Peugeot are both running hybrids in LMP1. Audi should have an advantage since their hybrid is diesel-powered versus gas-powered for the Pugs. This should give Audi an advantage in acceleration and mileage, while the Pugs may have a better top end. Should be fascinating. Porsche is rumoured to be returning next year, using the tech Audi is using this year (and which was used in the Porsche 911 GT3 hybrid last year).

    Is anyone beside me and the missus going this year?
     
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  3. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    I suspect there will be a few others ;)

    Don't forget to take a camera (like one other member here did last year) and make sure you post some pictures and give us a report.
     
  4. tonyw151

    tonyw151 Points Scorer Contributor

    I thought Peugeot had pulled out of motorsport? Or is this something else I'm missing?
     
  5. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    tony

    Sorry, I mis-typed. Toyota is returning this year., After so many years of following the Pug-Audi battles and pulling for the underdog (Pug), I suffered brain fade.
     
  6. Speshal

    Speshal World Champion Valued Member

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    I wish I were going, I've only been once but I had an absolute blast. There is a chinese restaurant halfway down the Mulsanne straight that is open 24 hours, have a nice bottle of wine and some tasty kung po at 3am LOL
     
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  7. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Have a great time. I fear you might get more of a battle in GTs than prototypes this time around, but regardless it's the best motorsport event around. Head over to Tertre Rouge at sunrise, if you're still going...:D
     
  8. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    Actually, the GTs have always been a major draw for us, with great battles among Aston, Corvette, Viper , Porsche and Ferrari. And this year, the Delta cars should be worth attending for by themselves.

    We are really doing this trip right. We are attending the DTM race (our first ever) at Brands (which we both love) and the IRC race at Ypres (where we have never been). Has anyone been there? If so, what are the best viewing areas? Any tips will be greatly appreciated.
     
  9. tooncheese

    tooncheese Hans Heyer Contributor

    siffert_fan I have a little tip when you go to Brands, cover your seat if you go to get doughnuts. Ifvnot it will suddenly rain and you will have a wet arse for the rest of the race. That said you see the whole indy circuit from Paddock Hill, which is a treat.
     
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  10. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    The official Test Day is this Sunday, with only 2 weeks to go to the main event. See here for the latest entry list:

    http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers...du-mans/entry_list_24_heures_du_mans_2012.pdf

    20 ex-F1 drivers in the field, by my reckoning (I could be wrong) including Buemi, Heidfeld and Brundle.
     
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  11. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    I am really looking forward to seeing the Deltawings in action. Their aim is go the 24 hours using about half the number of tyres as everyone else, and much less fuel as well. Thankfully LeMans isn't as hidebound as most forms of auto racing, and they are letting the Deltas run even though they aren't in any class and are not competing for points. They are there just to prove technical theories and try out new technologies.

    If only other forms of racing were that open to new ideas.
     
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  12. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Anyone missing Peugeot, don't worry, apparently so are Toyota; they've come dressed as 908s:

    http://blog.toyota.co.uk/toyota-ts030-hybrid-in-race-livery-first-pictures

    The Le Mans preview podcasts are also available to listen to from http://www.radiolemans.com/. Perfect to while away the time on the autoroute if you're lucky enough to be making the trip!
     
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  13. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Live timing for the Test Day here:http://live.lemans-tv.com/

    The DeltaWing has already dipped below the 4min mark.
     
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  14. Brogan

    Brogan Running Man Staff Member

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    As at 10:30, the Toyota of Nakajima and Audi of Gené have an identical best lap time of 3:31.039.

    That bodes well for the race :D
     
  15. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    1988 World Sportscar Champion Martin Brundle has completed his 10 rookie orientation laps! LOL
     
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  16. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Incredibly close morning session amongst the front-runners:

    1. L Duval (Audi R18 Ultra) 3:27.7
    2. T Kristensen (Audi R18 e-tron quattro) 3:28.0
    3. S Buemi (Toyota TS030 hybrid) 3:28.2
    4. B Treluyer (Audi R18 e-tron quattro) 3:28.3
    5. N Lapierre (Toyota TS030 hybrid) 3:28.7
    6. M Bonanomi (Audi R18 Ultra) 3:28.7

    The DeltaWing finished on a 3:47.9, pretty much an LMP2 car pace. Ferrari were 1-2 in GTE-Pro, with the Aston Martin Vantage in 3rd.
     
  17. soccerman17

    soccerman17 Race Winner

    The Toyota looks to be just as fast as the Audi, but can it get the fuel mileage the Audi gets? Also, even if the Delta Wing runs as fast as an LMP2 car it should finish ahead of all of them by making half the pit stops.
     
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  18. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    The Toyota as a petrol car gets a much bigger fuel tank capacity than the Audis - 73 litres I think, compared to 60 for the Audi ultras and 58 for the e-trons. So unless the consumption is extraordinarily high they should be managing at least 2 more laps in a stint.
     
  19. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    Galahad

    Interesting that the Deltas turned a 3:47, as , according to Dan Gurney, whose AAR facility built the car, the ACO targeted a 3:45 lap for them. Pretty good forcasting!
     
  20. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    That's not bad at all. And I heard that they ran all eight hours on a single set of slick (Michelin) tyres too, which if true is very impressive as a technical exercise.
     
  21. Brogan

    Brogan Running Man Staff Member

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    Woah!
    Eight hours on a single set of slicks? That bodes well for them.

    I have to say, the DeltaWing as a concept has confounded me.
    I never imagined it would be able to corner and grip as well as it obviously does, due to the narrow front track.
     

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