HRT

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  1. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Do HRT join the ranks of the greats such as
    • Coloni. (GP entries 1, for which they did not qualify.)
    • Eurobrun. (GP entries 75, DNQ/DNPQ's 55.)
    • Mastercard Lola. (GP entries 1, DNPQ 1.)
    • Life. (GP entries 14, DNQ's 14)
    And last but not least.
    • Andrea Moda. (Formally Coloni, GP entries 16, DNQ/DNPQ's 15, DNF's 1)
     
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  3. Brogan

    Brogan Leg end Staff Member

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    I don't think they're anywhere near as bad as that.
    They have only failed to qualify about eight times in three seasons - with then being permitted to start at least half of those.

    So their official record is:
    Entries: 116
    DNQ: 4
     
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  4. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    I think that HRT will be glad to know that they were not the worst of the worst...
     
  5. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Without doubt, Mephistopheles, there have been much worse than HRT.
     
  6. Slyboogy

    Slyboogy World Champion Contributor

    Despite slating them in 2010-2011.

    You've got to admire that they've done a good job considering their situation. Every year they had new owners, they missed testing every year, yet made it to the first race of the season with their cars, they may have not qualified in one or two of them.

    They also beat Marussia two years in a row who have a better budget, have stability, better drivers, engineers and structure.

    Add to that, they've been close to the pace of their rivals despite all the setbacks, they disappeared in the second half of this year due to money problems though.

    They might have been the joke team of the grid, but like Minardi, put in a great effort despite their circumstances.
     
  7. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Also their cars were in fact faster than some of the championship winning cars of the past including Senna's McLaren I believe, which I find Qi...
     
  8. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Slyboogy Minardi were a great team not only because of their fighting spirit but also they were a stepping stone for drivers to get into F1 they introduced some great drivers not least of which was Fernando Alonso, I for one never saw Minardi as a joke in fact I was very disappointed when they stopped racing I think they were a great loss...
     
  9. Brogan

    Brogan Leg end Staff Member

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    It's all relative though Mephistopheles.

    What we mustn't lose sight of also is just how small the gap is between the front teams and teams such as HRT,
    Four seconds may sound like a lot but over 4.3km, it's not really, is it?
    That's on average less than 1 second per kilometre; essentially a slow eye blink.

    Of course, in engineering and monetary terms, four seconds probably equates to £400 million.
     
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  10. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Very true Brogan
     
  11. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    Actually, the team HRT most remided me of was Tecno, of the early 70s. They had something like 14 entries, a couple of DNQs and actually scored a point by taking a 6th, with, as I recall, Chris Amon aboard. Of course, scoring a point separates TEcno from HRT as does the quality of Amon vs the HRT drivers!

    However, both were underfunded efforts with little development and underpowered engines, and neither did much but take up space on the grid.
     
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  12. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Not dead Contributor

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    Ok. Who is the best driver HRT ever had?

    I think its a toss up between Liuzzi and Klein. I'm going for Liuzzi.

    I guess that shows how bad their drivers were.
     
  13. canis

    canis Race Winner Valued Member

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    I think it is a shame that HRT aren't going to be around, I had managed to get together £25 and half a packet of wine gums I was going to offer them to let me have a drive next year :(

    But seriously, any team where the largest form of investment comes from the drivers bringing money in is never going to be a long term viable project. The owners need to want to invest in the team and as has been proven over the years that investment is never going to give an instant return but will require many years of high levels of cash to start to get the team up the grid and the bigger sponsorship monies.
     
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  14. Brogan

    Brogan Leg end Staff Member

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    Bad news for Williams then.
     
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  15. canis

    canis Race Winner Valued Member

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    Brogan Williams are not reliant on the money from their drivers just to exist, they use it to top up their sponsorship and company investment in each season. HRT had no money to speak of without their drivers paying for the seat, hence the reason in their first year they swapped drivers around depending on who gave them the biggest income for each race (sponsors of drivers will pay more depending on the local market of the race the driver appears in).
     
  16. teabagyokel

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    Red Bull made the opposite decision.
     
  17. TN23

    TN23 Rookie

    HRT's best? I'll agree with Liuzzi, with a mash-up for second between Ricciardo and Klien. I thought Chandhok did ok too... whilst at HRT of course!
     
  18. Plutus

    Plutus Rookie

    Actually I would rate Klien higher than Liuzzi, considering his past performances. His performance in 2010 was impressive after all he did beat Senna with barely any F1 race experience for three years.
    It wasn't an easy car to drive in 2010 and Senna had raced at all grand prixs with the exception of Silverstone.
     
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  19. RasputinLives

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    Yeah but Yamamoto also beat Senna in the same car. As did Chandock. So Senna really can't be rated that highly.

    Liuzzi scored their highest ever finish with his 13th in canada beating both Marussias. So I think he gets it. Not that its much to shout about.
     
  20. Brogan

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    HRT accused of misleading a supplier who confirms they went into liquidation a month ago.

    http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/8322437/
     
  21. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    I would rate Klein much higher. To me, Liuzzi never even showed that he was better than Scott Speed, and THAT is no endorsement of ability!
     

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