Discussion in 'Teams' started by HammydiRestarules, Feb 17, 2013.
i heard rumoured during a practice session. potentially a billion dollars
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If that wasn't enough, Max is alleged to have a clause in his contract that if he is not in the top 3 by the summer break he can look for other drives.
Red Bulls dramatic upturn in performance a coincidence?
Ruslan You have to blame both Honda and Mclaren for not compromising to get there faster. Mclaren because they (Ron) insisted on exclusive deal which meant no one to compare data with, Honda because they only insist on hiring internally and working in Japan when their European base was based in the UK - which meant they could have hired ex Merc, ex Williams , ex Renault and ex Red Bull guys and worked a lot more closer to get results.
It was obvious that Red Bull and Honda would get the results more quickly given they have their sister team as a guinea pig for engine data
Something Mclaren should have learned for the future.
Its costs billions but that is because Honda had to pay off Mclaren quite a huge amount to sever as well as fund the bruising project which was in danger of dragging Mclaren down for good
To be honest Mclaren have moved back up to the top 5 with Renault so Seidl is correct to not talk about regrets
Well, Mercedes spent at least $700 million to develop their original engine before it was ever ran in anger, Honda spend $1 billion overall on engine development over the last few years, don't know what Ferrari and Renault spent, but can't envision it is significantly less......this just does not look like an attractive environment for a new engine manufacturer to enter. How many minutes of TV ad time can I buy for $1 billion? How much positive advertising has Honda received from F1?
Honda have not improved their results solely because of the efforts of Red Bull, they also had all those years of work done whilst they were with McLaren.
Bill Boddy Whilst correct in that aspect. It was obvious if you have a team to compare data with then Honda might start understanding where the problems are more easily which Ron Dennis refuses to acknowledge
Incidentally apparently the Honda engine was on the edge at Austria due to the temperature issues
If you really want to talk about shit try the first test that McLaren had, or rather didn't had. How many engines have Honda supplied sincre they came back and how many penalty place did McLaren have as a result?
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