Future F1 Grands Prix

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by mjo, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. mjo

    mjo Procrastinating Contributor

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    An article in the Independent today suggested that Bernie Ecclestone wanted to have races in Mexico and South Africa. With races in the USA and Russia confirmed, and speculation that Argentina and France will join the calendar also, as well as Austria, we could see F1 have:

    a) more races in the calendar, (up to 24, 25?) and
    b) more 'traditional' races back - at the expense of other, more modern races (Turkey's already gone, Bahrain next?)
    There is also speculation that a race in Spain will go, probably Catalunya.
    I personally would love to have South Africa back on the calendar, then f1 would be a truly global sport.

    And a good Bernie quote:
    "Greece are also trying to do a Formula One race. The Germans will lend them some money".
     
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  3. Jos the Boss

    Jos the Boss Champion Elect

    Is Mexico South Africa, USA, Russia, Austria and France on, Turkey, Catalunya or, and Valencia gone it would be a 23 race calendar right?:thinking: and that is certinaly possible!
     
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  4. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    Turkey GONE

    Incoming 2014 - Russia agreed
    Pre existing contract - Rome ??? What happened to it

    Circuit sharing -

    German GP - Hockenheim and Nurburgring

    Spain GP possibly - Valencia and Barcelona

    Belgium GP - SPa would be happy to share with France GP as the circuit is privately owned

    Others

    Hungary GP - gives BErnie a lot of money but may need to make way

    Monaco GP - the crown jewel that will stay

    British GP - Silverstone has the best contract tied for 17 years or so

    Australia GP - Under threat
    China GP - was rumoured to give up as it operates at a loss
    Japan GP - Suzuka - unlikely to make way given Honda have got sole ownership of race after Toyota with Fuji left
    Bahrain GP- Bernie will give them second life becuase of the money
    Abu Dhabi GP - ala Bahrain MONEY MONEY MONEY and do not want to be undone
    Canada GP - may give way now the US GP will be back
    Brazil GP - won't be dropped given Senna is competing

    Teams have expressed saying 20 races is significantly enough and more races added will mean less testing and potentially the F1 championship running for the whole 12 months !!
     
  5. mjo

    mjo Procrastinating Contributor

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    They dropped the proposal to focus on the 2020 olympics. And seeing as Bernie said that there was going to be only 1 race per country, I'd rather have Monza than Rome.

    I know what I'd want, an extra GP instead of testing!!! And with a few back-to-backs, and only one break of about 3 weeks, we can easily fit it in 10 months.
     
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  6. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    It's a good point that a number of the venues on the current calendar - perhaps as many as half - are looking to either cut their hosting fees or do not intend/will not be able to renew at the expiry of their current deals.

    So it's a good time for Bernie to reassure...whomever...that the money is going to keep rolling in regardless. Whoever or whatever is in charge by 2015-16...
     
  7. mjo

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    Probably Bernie - he never seems to go away!!
     
  8. no-FIAt-please

    no-FIAt-please Champion Elect Premium Contributor

    Hmm for F1 to be a truly global sport it needs to take place on every continent and currently Africa and Antartica are missing, now the second one I'm not too bothered about but eventually (next 10 years) I think we'll see a return to Africa. However other than South Africa what other country has the money for one?
     
  9. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Libya once the fighting finishes.
     
  10. Slyboogy

    Slyboogy World Champion Contributor

    I think this getting quite ridiculous, yes tracks around the globe are needed, but not the same type of track on the same continent.

    I can see the calendar go past 20 races after this Concorde agreement ending, a race every weekend may just ruin the sport and the championship.
     
  11. Vortex

    Vortex Race Winner

    ….and my relationship! lol
     
  12. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    U.S is replacing Turkey next year

    Russia will replace Barcelona the year after(will anyone miss that one?).

    As for all the others - we'll see. Bernie makes sure theres an article every other week about a new Grand Prix somewhere so that all the others feel under pressure and don't haggle with him too hard over the fees he's asking for. As proven with GB there are certain countries Bernie will not let slip off the calender. I'm sure he'd have 2 races in the U.S if he could and if Perez comes good I'm sure one will sprout up in Mexico but I woudn't worry about the tracks like Monoco, Monza, Silverstone, etc because Bernie gets 50% of everything on race day and he's not mug enough to remove the Grand Prixs from the races he gets the biggest crowds from. Which is one of the reason I think Hungry is safe - a lot of fans from Europe travel to that one and line Bernie's pockets.
     
  13. Vortex

    Vortex Race Winner

    Hmm, id rather keep Barcelona and ditch Valencia. I kinda like Barcelona apart from them ruining the final corner.
     
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  14. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Sorry but Barcelona has always been snoozville to me - we've had 1 exciting race the whole time its been there. I know Valencia is worse but they won't drop that due to all the money round there
     
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  15. Vortex

    Vortex Race Winner

    Yup, overall I agree it often has been, but we’ve had a couple of decent (ish ) races there, I think Barca has a nice flow to it and is definitely better than Valencia (tho thats not difficult). But money money money money.
     
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  16. Grizzly

    Grizzly Bear Contributor

    Its been said before, but all they need to do is agree 10 core GPs and then we can have 20 more on a 2 year rotational basis.

    20 GPs a year on 30 tracks. It would make it easier on countries like Turkey where they can't draw the audiences and funding year on year.
     
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  17. Slyboogy

    Slyboogy World Champion Contributor

    Never going to happen though...
     
  18. ATL11

    ATL11 Podium Finisher

    Probably the most realistic approach & would suit some of the tracks.

    I do though like the idea of a GP in Antartica though, reckon they could do like the 1000 Lakes rally and have F1 cars with studded tyres.....Massa would still find a way to spin...........
     
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  19. KekeTheKing

    KekeTheKing Banned Supporter

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    Just imagine the howls from the Tifosi........"How are we ever going to get the heat in our tires".......:o

    As for a race in Mexico again. I support it.
     
  20. Mezzer

    Mezzer A fine chap if ever there was one. Contributor

    My only issue with this is that for China its less about money and more about face. Letting a GP go would be a significant loss of face considering its worldwide exposure.
     
  21. HammydiRestarules

    HammydiRestarules Di Resta fan :). Contributor

    Any more GP's than we already have on the calendar would make it a turn off for me.

    At the moment it seems to be March - end of November - instead of such a long summer break why not have just a three week break instead. As otherwise F1 is gonna turn into a year round thing and become boring like Tennis and Cricket have!
     
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