Current Fernando Alonso

Suprised there's no thread (although I had one for his blogs), so i'll start off:

A double world championship vs Raikkonen and then Schumacher in 2005 and 2006 respectively elevated Alonso's status but, apparently, no one told his rookie teammate at his brand new team of a theoretical 'pecking order' the following season ... and the Spaniard was 'seen off' by the young Englishman, Hamilton, into two years of Wilderness while both Hamilton and an even younger Vettel began to make their mark through '08 and '09.

Arguably, Alonso was in the Top 3 of all the Formula One 'Aces' in the 2000s following Hakkinen's retirement - up there with either Schumacher/Raikkonen and, then, Raikkonen/Hamilton - and remains so in the early 2010s along with Hamilton/Vettel...with only Kubica knocking on the door until the Pole's horrible Rallying accident.

A question mark initially over 2004 during which Trulli lead him in the standing until the Italian fell out with ex-manager and team boss Flavio Briatore (Alonso's then business manager) under dubious circumstances after the French Grand Prix.

Another question mark is...Who has progressed more since the end of 2007: Hamilton or Alonso?

A fan. Then came the unfortunate blackmail allegations against McLaren boss Ron Dennis on the morning of the 2007 Hungarian GP which came to light at the highly costly FIA 'Spy-Gate' hearings before Spa...followed by the odour of the deliberate crashing of the Number 2 Renault car at Singapore in 2008 which lead to Alonso finishing 1st in the event and ended in the banning of Briatore and Pat Symmonds a year later.

2009 was a poor year with 'Nando's' mind likely on the prospect of Santander paving the way to better prospects at Maranello one year earlier.

2010 was a fresh start at Ferrari (who no longer had Schumacher walking through the premises regularly) but first half season mistakes ultimately cost him a title inspite of being infamously aided by a Team Orders switch w Massa at Hockenheim (which lead to more world-wide criticism).

Relatively fast, relatively consistent but prone to mistakes and a possible insecurity complex (*) based on wanting sole focus from a team and being only happy with a Number 2 in the other car running behind him. Anything else and it seemingly rattles him.

(*) This is my own personal opinion.

..and so to 2011...

He's underperformed only at Malaysia (hit Hamilton) and China (invisible while Massa challenged McLarens and Red Bulls) and, arguably, Canada...but has maximized his chances in the other 6 races culminating in the British GP win.

He said in his post-Monaco blog that 'Silverstone would be the WDC cut-off'...and so, after some major upgrades, the Ferrari looks a winner again. It might be too late for 2011 given Vettel's finishing rate...but the 2012 regs means they should keep the hammer down at Maranello.

He's signed on through to 2016...So hopes are high of a WDC at some juncture...but not yet.
 
Still I can't help but like him as I tend to find all the new generation far too PR savvy.

You are kidding me right? Fernando Alonso is the most PR savvy F1 driver who has ever been in the sport. Knows how to smooze the right people, knows how to play mind games in the media, knows how to promote himself. There is no one who has even come close to him.

Do you think all these radio messages are not thought through. They serve 3 purposes.

1) So everyone is clear it is the Mclaren is shite and not him.

2) air time. Without them we'd see and hear bugger all about him. Out of sight out of mind. Come up with something witty and controversial every 5 laps and he still gets talked about.

3) self promotion. "I'm driving better than ever" "I'm quickest in the corners". Great way of reminding everyone how good he is.
 
You are kidding me right?

Sorry I miss-typed I meant that the new guys are bland and do what the PR guys tell them ; you are right Alonso is 100% PR Savvy and is certainly not always on PR message. But I like him because of the character that this shows whereas the young guns )MAx apart) hardly show anything of themselves.
 
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Sorry I miss-typed I meant that the new guys are bland and do what the PR guys tell them ; you are right Alonso is 100% PR Savvy and is certainly not always on PR message. But I like him because of the character that this shows whereas the young guns )MAx apart) hardly show anything of themselves.
How can they, when they're not in the position to do so. It's a typical behaviour and similar to swearing from a sociolinguistic point of view. Middle classes tend to swear less than the lower classes - who have nothing to lose nor much to gain - and upper class - who can afford to swear due to their position in society -, whereas middle classes tend to watch their language, because they have the most to lose and to gain and normally overcompensate by being exceptionally correct when speaking in general.
The same accounts to the drivers, who have not built a reputation or are not in the position to out themselves as they would like to.
 
You are kidding me right? Fernando Alonso is the most PR savvy F1 driver who has ever been in the sport. Knows how to smooze the right people, knows how to play mind games in the media, knows how to promote himself. There is no one who has even come close to him.
He's become more PR savvy as he's matured but he certainly wasn't during his first stint at McLaren, in fact he very nearly destroyed his career and possibly would have had Renault not taken him back.
 
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The young guys being over controlled by PR teams is of course not really their fault....you have to climb the career ladder and not bite the hand that feeds. My point is that for most of us fans we like to see the drivers as individuals with character strenghts and flaws so the bigger fan base tends to go to the characters like Alonso Hamilton etc.... part of me thinks Alonso is using these sound bites for his own agenda but also with the implicit backing of McLaren and maybe even some in Honda are happy to hear it to so that they can get the very seniors to take the neccesary action. Wheels within wheels. Whatever the reasons its the situation thats a shame because he should be up there mixing it with the top three teams.
 
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The young guys being over controlled by PR teams is of course not really their fault....you have to climb the career ladder and not bite the hand that feeds. My point is that for most of us fans we like to see the drivers as individuals with character strenghts and flaws so the bigger fan base tends to go to the characters like Alonso Hamilton etc.... part of me thinks Alonso is using these sound bites for his own agenda but also with the implicit backing of McLaren and maybe even some in Honda are happy to hear it to so that they can get the very seniors to take the neccesary action. Wheels within wheels. Whatever the reasons its the situation thats a shame because he should be up there mixing it with the top three teams.
They have a big fan base, because they're successful and due to their success can be more outspoken and by that show more character.
 
Basically, Jolyon Palmer can't criticise Renault because Renault would not suffer if they lost Jolyon Palmer. I suspect only Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel and maybe Verstappen can be confident that their teams believe they are important enough to ride out the storm.
 
Dear Fernando,

You are very funny and amusing and we all know you have a lot of fans and do good for the sport. We also all know you're still exceptionally talented. However, we all also know by now that 3rd title is not going to happen. Rather than piddling around in the midfield could you please step aside and let Lando Norris have a pop at F1? The guard has to change at somepoint.

Once you are free of the shackles of F1 you can have an exciting time driving Indy, Le Mans or hell even Formula E. TV channels will also be falling over themselves and a best selling book is a shoe in. I'd certainly like a copy.

Also you would have far more time to explore the wonders of the Welsh coast.

Yours faithfully.

Rasputin U. Lives.
 
He led at Indy and if his engine hadn't let go was in with a chance for the win, that's probably all he needed to lift his mood considering the F1 McLaren. Hope he has another crack at it sooner rather than later.
 
Didn't Max Chilton lead a few laps at this years Indy 500?
Yes he did when he was out of sync on pit stops. Alonso's pace was real throughout the race an gave him a genuine chance for the win, just one of many reasons America took him into their hearts and hope he'll be back.
 
Like pretty much every other driver out there Fernando is very easy easy to manage as long as he beast his team-mate. When he doesn't probably less so.
 
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