Climate change, global warming & the environment

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  1. McZiderRed

    McZiderRed Champion Elect Supporter

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    That's ok. I'm gonna vote to leave anyway.:ermmm:
     
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  3. Titch

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    What :ermmm: you're leaving the climate?
     
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  4. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Inspiring stuff. Makes Trumps stance look even more shamefull if that was possible.

    World's poorest countries to aim for 100% green energy - BBC News
     
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    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Portugal is doing pretty well in renewables - Renewable energy in Portugal - Wikipedia
     
  6. Titch

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    Yes, but you should see what it's done to the landscape. A once beautiful headland covered in hundreds of wind turbines, no longer accessible to anyone or anything. There has to be a better way.
     
  7. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    I agree, but until it is usable how do you tell someone who has nothing except a flooded tin hut that things will get better one day? I am not sure that they would appreciate it was worth it when told it was to save the view.
     
  8. Titch

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    With wind turbines it's not just the view that needs saving, so do many birds. Anyway the people who need power, don't benefit from the power that we generate, they need to generate their own.
     
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    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Shale gas, natural gas, coal, oil etc. could all be made redundant if power generation companies put a bit more effort into projects like this Sewage project sends first ever renewable gas to grid - News releases archive - Thames Water

    One thing we have an almost endless supply of is human waste and most of it just gets flushed into the sea.
     
  10. Incubus

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    Are you serious?... What power do we "generate"? Except the comparatively tiny percentage of "clean" energy for which this government continues to treat as an afterthought budget-wise?

    We are so over-reliant on overseas fossil fuel multinationals it's unreal.
     
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  11. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Add in the fact that all of our energy production in owned by the Germans and the French which means any profits which are generated get taken off shore.
     
  12. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    That will change after Brexit LOL

    Or not. :dunno:

    And don't forget the Chinese.
     
  13. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Are we going to buy wind power from the Chinese then?:D
     
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  14. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    With this Government, you would imagine they'd fall for it.

    :D
     
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  15. Titch

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    Well Incubus I was talking about the we in the West,and East, not just the UK, I'm aware we have nothing to offer, and I was referring to Bill Boddy s flooded tin hut scenario. So what are the benefits to us of all our imported fuel, zilch, we are dependant on a non-dependable situation. Encouraging the tin hutters to become fuel independent, is much better than covering the world in wind turbines, maybe they could get it right, unlike us. Maybe they could create energy from their waste. Green energy.
     
  16. Incubus

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    1. OK I got you wrong but to put it mildly we in the west haven't got a hell of a lot of ground to stand on when it comes to "encouraging" any nation nations in Africa or Asia into anything considering how many of these are still struggling in a post-colonial landscape to alter the legacy of an infrastructure that we in the west are responsible for imposing on them in the first place...

    It' s like what they' ve been doing for the past few years in some african countries offering farmers offering incentivesto grow organic and GM-free crops. Probably a very good idea for some of us wishy-washy eco-minded westerners. For them however it's a slightly different story. These crops require a hell of a lot more land for a start - incidentally encrounching on wildlife ever further - and costs a lot more to maintain. Who's gonna pay for that, and most importantly how many of the locals will be able to even afford whatever produce comes out of it?
     
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  17. Titch

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    Stolen from Orwell : It strikes me that if such men were aware of their strength, we would have no hold over them.

    Slightly modified.
     
  18. olegg

    olegg Race Winner

    One hundred years ago...
    The Great Frost (1917)
     
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  19. Incubus

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    I rmember it like it was yesterday.
     
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  20. Greenlantern101

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    Act now or we are ****ed. Well looks we are ****ed then.

    Final call to halt 'climate catastrophe'
     
  21. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Don't worry, Trump has decided it won't happen.>:(
     

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