Caterham (formerly Lotus)

Discussion in 'Teams' started by FB, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    I like "pie in the sky" organisations!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesketh_Racing
     
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  3. KekeTheKing

    KekeTheKing Banned Supporter

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    The differences between Lord Hesketh's feel-good operation and Tony Fernandes' vanity venture are far too numerous to even count. I see no similarities whatsoever, aside from their short tenure in the sport that is.
     
  4. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    Never thought you would.
     
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  5. KekeTheKing

    KekeTheKing Banned Supporter

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    So you see Team Lotus/Caterham as a modern-day Hesketh?

    LOL
     
  6. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    I see any small and, possibly, underfunded team as a 'modern day' Hesketh.

    What is/was the difference between Hesketh and Fernandes in your eyes?
     
  7. KekeTheKing

    KekeTheKing Banned Supporter

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    Oh boy, where to begin!

    Hesketh and Bubbles went racing to enjoy themselves, pure and simple. Tony saw a business opportunity under the pretense that Ferrari and McLaren (et al) spending would be reigned in to a (relatively) paltry 40 Million.

    Hesketh not only portrayed, but wholeheartedly lived the devil-may-care attitude that endeared them to many a fan. Team Lotus Air Asia Caterham never once inspired any sort of feel-good atmosphere that signified the Hesketh/Horsely/Hunt era. Fernandes' outift was as boringly corporate as you could imagine. The only charm they engendered was due to the fact that they were the natural "David" to F1's "Goliath's".

    I could honestly go on and on about how Caterham doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Hesketh, but I feel absolutely no need, because its quite obvious to anyone taking an honest view of the situation.

    Fernandes' actions over the past 3 months clearly show that he was never a racer, simply an opportunist.
     
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  8. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    Finally outed as an old style racer then :).

    But the F1 world has sadly moved on and, we the fans, have to move on too, whilst taking comfort from those who dare whatever their motive.

    If we were to remove all the 'corporate' teams now, there would be sod all left. Opportunists abound whether they have history or not and Caterham is/was just one more chancing their arm.
     
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  9. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #dejavu Valued Member

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    There will never be another Hesketh. Ever.
     
  10. Jen

    Jen Here be dragons. Contributor

    Alex and James were extraordinary in what they did. So you are probably right as few chance their arm any more!
     
  11. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    The point is though KekeTheKing you lumped all small teams in the same basket...
     
  12. F1Yorkshire

    F1Yorkshire Avatar for sale to the highest bidder Contributor

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  13. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    I expect them to turn up do one racing lap and claim the 2 mill prize money which will not go towards paying the staff what they are owed but straight in to matey boy's back bin...
     
  14. KekeTheKing

    KekeTheKing Banned Supporter

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    How so? Every post specifically refers to Tony Fernandes and his Lotus/Caterham team.
     
  15. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

     
  16. KekeTheKing

    KekeTheKing Banned Supporter

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    Caterham and Marussia obviously

    Edit - clarification

    Mephistopheles - I see you're quoting posts from other threads and you still can't manage to make a cogent point.
     
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  17. Mephistopheles

    Mephistopheles Banned Contributor

    Marussia scored points this year and their excitement at doing so was tangible I don't see why they don't deserve to be in F1 and Caterham is being run by a self serving prick but that doesn't mean the team itself didn't try their best...
     
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  18. KekeTheKing

    KekeTheKing Banned Supporter

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    Never been a secret. Even though I did not watch contemporaneously, Keke Rosberg was the first F1 pilot that I became thoroughly enamored with. In an era of balls-out driving, his was the ballsiest. I've always supported drivers based on their on track exploits, which naturally led me to supporting Hamilton.

    From the outset Caterham employed two of the least inspiring drivers the grid has seen in recent times. And once they resorted to pay drivers it only got worse.
     
  19. F1Yorkshire

    F1Yorkshire Avatar for sale to the highest bidder Contributor

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    Can I still place a bet on this?

    http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns29410.html
     
  20. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    The question has to be asked "What's the point?". Dog slow car, crap driver, waste of money all round.
     
  21. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    Totally agree. I hope nothing goes wrong with the cars because they don't have the people to fix them.
     
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