It suggests to me that those cars have too many settings and it's all getting out of hand. Verstappen has matured as a driver and he did do well yesterday. Vetel drove well too but could never get close enough to challenge really sadly. He managed to keep Bottas behind him though but then it's Monaco, it didn't take that much doing. cider_and_toast It's still doing it I'm sorry to say. We're still getting those wet towels sadly if you spell number Seb's last name correctly. Okay, putting the shortening for Sebastian also changes it to 'crap German etc.' apparently as you can see.