Featured Grand Prix 2019 Australian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by FB, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. BradMan

    BradMan Test Driver

    I still don't agree he rattled Vettel... I think there were other factors at play
     
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  3. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Vettel helped bolster Ricciardo’s reputation no end by failing to turn up that season. Ric’s been credited with beating a four-time world champ in the same car ever since - which is true - but also an overblown fact.
     
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  4. BradMan

    BradMan Test Driver

    Could'nt have stated it better vintly. True...every word
     
  5. Titch

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    I’m sorry but Danny Ric given the same car and opportunity did a fantastic job, and in my opinion Vettel was rattled. I don’t know if Vettel had number 1 status in his contract that year or not, but Danny Ric did really well. I don’t think that’s an overblown fact.
     
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  6. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Danny Ric is really good, and he did really well. Certainly not saying that’s overblown. Hope he gets crushed by the Hulk though eh Titch ;)
     
  7. Izumi

    Izumi Rookie

    Your argument presumes that both drivers had the same resources and mental disposition, thus they competed on the level. Some of us, myself included, dispute assumptions of similar kind. Vettel had a lot of bad luck with that car, which extended beyond DNF or DNS.
    Situation was exasperated with him badly needed milage to change his driving technique, and he wasn't getting it. He got shortchanged before season, and in several pre-race weekends, which ended up him going into a race with setup being tested on the installation lap. He had even nasty argument with Newey, with that one really saying things which he shouldn't. If Vettel was hesitant leaving, that might have pushed him forward.

    Mentally he was not in the office for one reason or another. It was not IMO straight fight, regardless what Ricciardo or someone else thinks of it. At the end it however doesn't matter. He got Vettel that year, and riding those cocktails ever since. Good for him.
     
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  8. cider_and_toast

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  9. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    In other news, purely out of curiosity and because I enjoy looking at the numbers, the total laps completed by the two RBR Drivers in the 2014 pre season tests were as follows:

    Seb Vettel - 162
    Danny Ric - 158

    I'd forgotten just how bad they were going into that season and it makes the fact RBR won races even more impressive.
     
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  10. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    If people want to talk about 2014 Vettel did not turn up that season and simply called the car or the regulations :censored: or on the similar lines rather than naming cars after woman he fantasises about. Seb had the wrong attitude after testing whereas previous seasons he'd put in those blinding 1 lap in testing , he could not for 2014. Ricciardo to his credit got one with job and delivered and it was not even the 2nd best car on the grid . If anything the next best car was Williams who should have won races if they had a decent driver that season
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    Onto 2019

    LeClerc - the guy seems to ooze class and not fazed by Vettel and the fact he appears one with the car means he will be fighting for victories and podiums no doubt. He will push Vettel no doubt

    Gasly - oh dear:oops: another crash in testing I am starting to think he's getting either over excited or seriously worried about the speed of Verstappen with pressure over his shoulder from Albon

    Norris - Has got plenty of miles which will stand him in good stead

    Albon - I think he will surprise a few people

    Russell - Is now getting the miles in but it does not look good as the Williams will be at least 1 second slower than the 2nd slowest car :rolleyes:

    Giovinazzi - seems to be forgotten in all the hype around Le Clerc but lets see if he has matured and can put Kimi into retirement or not

    Ricciardo - I think he will have some painful expressions on his face this season if Red Bull as fast as everybody thinks it will be to challenge for the drivers
     
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  11. Titch

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    No, I like them both. But I would like to see Danny Ric do well. I’m just a bit of a fan, just a little bit.

    :D
     
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  12. Radical F1

    Radical F1 Learner

    Agree totally with all your driver notes most specifically Albon.
    I am so far very impressed at his abilities. This guy is quick !
    He may force Kvyat into retirement for good by the end of this season.
     
  13. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives I don't believe in Zimmerman Contributor

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    Albon was the only person I saw properly push LeClerc to his limit in junior formula so very excited to see what he does.
     
  14. Radical F1

    Radical F1 Learner

    True. I read that.
    If Albon is given the right hardware and support, he can really shine this year and has a chance to get promoted and replace Gasly.
     
  15. BradMan

    BradMan Test Driver

    Don't underestimate Kvyat guys.... With a little finesse he can be a top driver...
     
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  16. Radical F1

    Radical F1 Learner

    Sure Brad.
    He needs refinement then he can be a strong driver. Not torpedoing all over the place. It's all up to him though.
     
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  17. Angel

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    Yes but can he find the finesse, that's the big question? His career with Toro Rosso/Red Bull hasn't gone well before has it? That will no doubt be playing on his mind to some degree too. I sort of feel bad for him, in some ways he's on a hiding to nothing.
     
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  18. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan. Contributor

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    Never doubted him.
     
  19. Radical F1

    Radical F1 Learner

    Australian GP - Just Prediction (based on nothing but my guess from my butt )

    Vettel for POLE to Win
    2nd - LeClerc
    3rd - Verstappen
     
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  20. Izumi

    Izumi Rookie

    As much as I want this prediction turn into reality, this year cars seems to be just too close to each other, and driver's skill might be not the only factor that propels him to the top. Little bit of luck will be in demand as well. (Unobstracted qualifying, optimised and error free setup for climatic conditions of the day, etc.) Several cars could be crossing Finish line a meter apart of each other on Saturday in qualifications practice. Vettel, Leclerc, Hamilton, Bottas, Verstappen, they all have chance in first race IMO. I would add, anyone from midfield might surprise us as well. Sainz was doing well, Perez cannot be underestimated, and there could be someone else from midfield coming up as a surprise for us all. Maybe not in the top three places, but among first five.
     
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  21. Il_leone

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    I think Hamilton's ability will help him sneak a podium but it does appear Ferrari's are faster
     

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