Grand Prix 2018 Singapore Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

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  1. olegg

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  3. Izumi

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    I don't believe Räikkönen will play along. He will do his own thing, a that is that. I for one think that it is mistake to let him drive next to Vettel for remainder of the season.
     
  4. olegg

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  5. Ruslan

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    Interesting and hard to interpret. Usually the FP3 is the most meaningful, except this one is run at night, like qualifying and the race. I will adventure a few comments:

    1. It appears that Ferrari is faster than Mercedes
    2. It appears that Mercedes is faster than Red Bull (this has got to be disappointing for them....as this is one track where they should shine).
    3. I am guessing that best of the rest is Haas. I gather Grosjean is back on form...and that form is faster than Magnussen's. Suspect Haas will be remain loyal to its two drivers for 2019.
    4. Vandoorne remains unexplainably slow.....sort of making the argument why he won't have a drive next year, regardless of his complaints and comments.
    5. Sainz is starting to look better the second half of the season (he did not in the first half). He may be rejuvenated now that he knows he has a home.
    6. Alonso is Alonso...he always performs no matter how bad the car is.
    7. I gather Ericson, Ocon and Vandoorne need to prove something, as they may all be out of a ride this year.
    8. Vettel kind of needs pole here.
     
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  7. F1Brits_90

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    vettels looking very good in a race he has to win as a 2017 repeat & the title is over. but what isnt going well is that red bull are huge shock in that session to be 1.2 secs off in the qualifying sims on red bulls favourite track. which Mercedes are rubbing their hands with that because they came to Singapore, thinking right we are going into finish 5th behind Ferrari & Red Bulls. we'll go to russia with a 15pt lead. so to lose only a 1/3rd of lead instead of half is huge
     
  8. F1Brits_90

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    Interesting what camera saw in between Fp3 & Qualifying
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  9. olegg

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  10. F1Brits_90

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    Caught up on qualifying. Yet another special pole lap from Hamilton. I know he has the pole record but i feel he will still go down as 1 of greatest qualifiers, as i can't remember seeing another driver who can deliver laps multiple times at critical time. He is closest i think to what & if race is same top 3 then barring DNF or crashes. Thats season over at singapore gp in consective years. Because a 40pt gap would be chasm

    But outstanding from verstappen, from where they were in FP3 to stick it on the front row better than both ferrari's & bottas, arguably on a par with Hamilton pole. Its dejavu because like i said 12 months ago if verstappen sticks 1 up the inside let him go as there no need to fight him
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2018
  11. RasputinLives

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    I think with all the talk of Vettel throwing the championship away we're overlooking what sensational form Hamilton is in at the moment.
     
  12. Ruslan

    Ruslan Test Driver

    Hamilton's first qualifying lap (the one that stood up) was so good even he was not able to repeat it. His comments after qualifying confirmed that. Hard to say what happened with Ferrari.....as not only was Hamilton faster than Vettel by 0.6 seconds...but Bottas was 0.1 ahead of Raikkonen. Still....Hamilton was almost 0.6 seconds ahead of his teammate !!!

    Anyhow, that may be the lap of the season....as I suspect this pole, at a track where Ferrari was supposed to have an edge.....may give Hamilton an unbeatable advantage. Races can be tricky things.

    A few things to watch for tomorrow:
    1. The Vettel and Verstappen duel.....right behind Hamilton. Can't imagine that this will not end up in tears.
    2. The Perez, Grosjean, Ocon duel (as they are starting as the best of the rest in 7th, 8th and 9th). One of these drivers may not be in F1 next season.
    3. The Hulkenberg, Alonso, Sainz duel. Is Sainz, in a superior car, able to beat the man he is going to replace next year at McLaren.
     
  13. F1Brits_90

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    I agree with that. As logic says he shouldnt have won at monza & shouldnt be on pole in Singapore. But he taking the car beyond where it should be. Which is not great for bottas as said before because matching that is almost like the impossible job & when currently bar verstappen & Vettel maybe alonso. I dont see anyone else with the potential to match him


    Just need to complete what i saying. I double checked it for errors as well :givemestrength:

     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2018
  14. Clay

    Clay Learner

    Of course he should’ve won Monza. Bottas helped him by forcing Raikkonen to follow him and destroy his tyres and decrease the gap to Hamilton.
    He should also be on pole in Singapore. It’s not magic. Every car is subject to the laws of physics and neither Matt Adore nor Hamilton can push their cars beyond that limit.
    The onboard laps of Hamilton and Vettel show that the Mercedes rotates a lot better than the Ferrari and so did the Red Bull of Verstappen. Even without the small errors Vettel wouldn’t have been on pole or in second. Verstappen was actually quicker than Hamilton in most of the turns, but lost time on all the straights.
    The gap between Hamilton and Bottas is just as big as last year. Since when is Bottas’ form the baseline of Mercedes’ general performance - isn’t he just an average Joe according to most viewers who should be sacked for Ocon?
     
  15. I'd say that this is the season when Hamilton has been most impressive
     
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  16. very interesting post, I didn't manage to watch qualy but in a few lines you gave me all the info that I needed :thumbsup:
     
  17. I'm not into betting but if I was I'd put some money that there will be fireworks from Vettel and Versbatten and that Vettel will be the one who loses out most. And if anything happens chances are that no matter what caused the accident Vettel will receive some sort of penalty 8-)
     
  18. Angel

    Angel Rookie Supporter

    Honestly I'm hoping Mad Max will come into effect and take Hamilton out allowing Vettel to win to bring the title battle closer again.
     
  19. Chasz

    Chasz Points Scorer

    Wouldn't it be better if we had a great race with some close racing and no-one madly taking each other out?

    Just saying...
     
  20. RasputinLives

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    Clay I have to say that Merc car car confuses the hell out of me. In Q1 there were times it looked impossibly stiff like it didn't want to turn at all and it was no surprise to see Hamilton running wide and over kerbs. By the time we got to Q3 though it's it's charactetistics seemed to have changed completely and it was cornering like a dream.
     
  21. Il_leone

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    on the bbc the open question was who were the most overrated and underrated drivers in F1 some responses included

    Underrated -: Hulkenberg - I dont disagree

    Overrated : Ricciardo - :facepalm:guess they have not checked Daniel's record at Red Bull since he got promoted included thrashing Vettel

    Hamilton ;- Trying to compare against when he got in a quick car straight away :facepalm: He still managed to race and compete hard against Alonso and yesterday's lap was Senna like and no one saw it coming
     

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