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Technical 2018 Pirelli Tyres

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by F1Brits_90, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. F1Brits_90

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    Pirelli introduces two new F1 tyre compounds for 2018


    Pirelli will expand its dry weather F1 tyre range to 7 compounds for 2018 with the introduction of the superhard & the hypersoft.

    Pirelli says the compounds in the 2018 "rainbow" range with be "considerably softer" compared to 2017. Hypersoft is obviously a compound that we developed for very low severity circuits. We realised that, under the unique circumstances of this year, some of our 2017 compounds were perhaps conservative.

    The teams will try out the new tyres for the first time next week during the 2 day Post-Abu Dhabi GP tyre test
     
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  3. F1Brits_90

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    must resist making innuendos about drivers being superhard in 2018. although only in f1 could drivers enter the box superhard & leave soft. :whistle:

    oh dam didnt make it LOLLOL
     
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  4. Rutherford

    Rutherford Podium Finisher

    The superhard should be blue...
     
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  5. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Oh for the love of ****ing Christ.
     
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  6. Wombcat

    Wombcat Podium Finisher

    I'm a bit at a loss why they have so many different tyres, since the hard and medium are already hardly used. They could skip those, there's no need for the superhard. And I wonder if the hypersoft is really necessary. Which would just leave three tyres, which you could name hard, medium, soft.
     
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  7. The Pits

    The Pits Harumph. Again. Valued Member

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    Im not sure I can summon up sufficient ****s to give about how many compounds pirelli can produce. It is sufficient for me to know that each race teams are allowed to use 3 different compounds. Other than that its just padding for the commentators.

    Edited before gethinceri provides admonishment.
     
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  8. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    I'm sorry but they've quite clearly just coloured in a diagram explaining erectile dysfunction.

    :facepalm:
     
  9. jez101

    jez101 Bookies drive nice cars because of people like me Contributor

    Maybe. Just maybe this will help... If the compounds are close enough that there is more than one 'good choice' or that the strategy that suits one car is different from the strategy that suits another...?

    If Bernie was still in charge he might suggest a lottery or a draft to pick from a limited supply of each compound. You know, like US sports, so Sauber gets to pick first and ends up with more softer tyres than Mercs who pick last.

    Anything to shake it up and randomise things a bit is good for me at this point.
     
  10. Wombcat

    Wombcat Podium Finisher

    If the compounds are really close, the difference in strategies between the compounds are also really small.
     
  11. F1Brits_90

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    even with these 7 compounds, which why we need a super hard when hard was used once in Spanish free practise & never again. but I saw something from Karun chandhok where he was saying that some grand prixs super soft is going to be hardest compound. thats going to make things even more confusing for even us fans never mind the neutrals or people that don't follow it so closely.

    would it not be easier to just call the changing 3 compounds throughout the season at any weekend, the prime for hardest, middle for middle & option for softest
     
  12. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    The whole tyres debate will go away once the over-reliance-on-aero issue is sorted and not before. Over the top aero reliance combined with numerous tyre compound options, that all change quickly with wear, type of wear, core temperature, surface temperature, etc makes for too many damn variables that occludes the real issue, which is motor-sport racing.

    If the floor and front wings were standardised with reduced aero impact across the grid, things would get better. Tyres is just aero-chaff.
     
  13. F1Brits_90

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    very interesting chat in sky fp3, that Pirelli have admitted that they have made a compound with if all things go to plan. they will never use. because apparently super hard is only there as a back up in case they have underestimated the 2018 cars. & no car will do a lap on them.

    also Pirelli guy said that they will all be 1 step softer so your 2017 supersoft is your 2018 soft , 2018 ultrasoft is your 2018 supersoft but the hypersoft worries me because its 2 steps softer than the already 2018 1 step softer ultra soft. so can you imagine racing this year a tyre that is 3 steps softer than the ultra soft. it would barely last a qualifying lap
     
  14. teabagyokel

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    We need tyres that degrade. If there is no chance of the tyre going significantly slower at the end of a stint, there’ll be a procession of “manage the 2s gap” lapping.

    And I said that before they changed it earlier.
     
  15. F1Brits_90

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    Pirelli using new software to spice up F1 strategies
     
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    Pirelli using new software to spice up F1 strategies

    Pirelli has developed new software to help it choose race-by-race F1 tyre compounds in order to encourage 2 pitstops per event & give teams multiple strategy options

    Using simulations through the season to find the best combination of 3 compounds to achieve its goals, which in some cases could mean "jumping" a compound step & for example nominating the medium, soft and ultrasoft, but not the supersoft. If we discover for example that soft, supersoft & ultrasoft are too close, we can nominate, as we did for China, where we did medium, soft and ultrasoft. It's important that we collect the delta laptimes between compounds to decide the selection.
     
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