Grand Prix 2018 Mexico Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by Angel, Oct 21, 2018.

  1. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    I think Max might do a silly move down the inside and take himself and his teammate out which is what Vettel is hoping

    If Max gets a good start and stays with Ricciardo I think he should win it judging by the pace he's shown
     
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  3. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Ricciardo's engine will blow up at some point because that's what's been happening.
     
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  4. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    It would be better for Seb if Max took Hamilton out ;)

    Then Ricciardo's engine could blow and it would keep the championship alive for another race!! :thumbsup:

    Before anyone says it, I know, I know, it should be a good clean start and all of them racing properly. The title shouldn't be won on one person taking another out and so on, but as a Vettel fan it's all there is left to hope for this season :teary:
     
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  5. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    well that was a shock, where did Riccardio find that because all weekend & to be honest most of last 6 races up until 2mins to go in Q3. always a few tenths off Verstappen in qualifying but great lap & vettel will be delighted as his ex teammate has just kept his record, barring wet qualifying in interlagos & interesting stats that this was red bulls 1st front row lockout since the really boring US gp in 2013 & 1st time a red bull has taken pole outside of Monaco since the final race of V8 era with vettel 2013 Brazilian gp

    I can see tears into that 1st corner, because Riccardio & Verstappen aren't known for yielding, vettel has to win & lewis will be there with horsepower advtange & the tow. so we could be 4 a brest which could be a recipe for disaster. also I saw this morning to add this there is 55% of thunderstorms from 2pm - 4pm (Mexican time)

    also this is a mute point but I had a strange dream last night of watching Mexican gp, rained by lap 25 & it was max Verstappen flanked by 2 toro rosso drivers which I think is so unlikely, vettel has more chance of winning of world championship. but if that Happens it will be exciting ;):D
     
  6. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    RasputinLives Now that's a nice conspiracy theory Red Bull giving Daniel - worse engines so he does not beat Max but wait the engines are supplied by Daniel's new employees

    It will be more interesting to see what pit stop strategy they run.. leave Max out longer so he can do clear laps and bulk Daniel in traffic .. Mark Webber knows a thing or two about being screwed up in pit stop strategy by Red Bull
     
  7. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    Not a conspiracy theory. I don't think Red Bull are doing it delib but it feels like Danny Ric hasn't finished a race since May.
     
  8. Il_leone

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    Since France when the argument about Towgate

    Verstappen 5 podiums , 1 retirement
    Ricciardo 0 podiums and 5 retirements

    Since Hungary when Ricciardo announced he was joining Renault

    Verstappen 4 podiums in 6 races
    Riccardio - 0 podiums and 3 retirements

    I think how they run the pit strategy will be interesting and the subsequent reactions afterwards if they were allowed to race or not
    "Multi 21" anyone ?
     
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  9. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    There’s nothing Red Bull would like more than Ric to win. Send him off on a high. Conspiracy talk is nonsense.

    But they’ve gotta get thru turn one first!
     
  10. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    vintly Try telling Max not to go for the win when he is behind Daniel
     
  11. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Why would RB do that Il_leone? As usual - if in that situation - RB will allow them to race, sensibly, then cross their fingers, only uncrossing them in order to bite their nails during the race. As it should be.
     
  12. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives Happy to be me again Contributor

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    vintly I'm not touting conspiracy theory here but Red Bull want Max to win over Danny. He's their driver. They'd be silly not too.
     
  13. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    They’d be sillier not to let Ric win a race on merit. It would show there’s no (or less than perceived) bias in the team, and also that Ric is wrong to leave s race-winning team. It would be a huge plus for RB, and Ric. Verstappen isn’t in danger of losing a WDC if he is beaten, and is there next season anyway, has already won races and will win more. It’s hugely in a Red Bull’s favour for Ric to win.
     
  14. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    Red Bull should let Ricciardo win if he's in the lead, I agree entirely with what you said, I just bet they don't though. He did the dirty on them by signing with another team when they thought he was going to stay with them, so now they want their favourite Max to win to prove Ricciardo made a big mistake.
     
  15. RasputinLives

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    I'm not suggesting RB won't let him win. They are quite fair like that. It's just clear who they would prefer to win!
     
  16. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    Several drivers didn’t improve on their first lap.
    Don't you think that judgement is a bit harsh considering that they both had stunning laps with Ricciardo having the upper hand by 0.030 seconds. Ricciardo didn't have a good first run and Verstappen couldn't improve when he went out on his second lap. They both delivered, only that Ricciardo was even better yesterday and Verstappen wasn't the only one not to improve his initial time.

    Of course Verstappen is frustrated, just like any other person with any competitive bone in him would be, if he's missed out on something he wanted to achieve. Let's not exaggerate his emotions. It has been said in other instances, the drivers don't get a chance to cool down after qualifying or the race and a microphone is shoved into their face before they even get the chance to take their helmets off.
     
  17. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    I think it will be decided after the first round of pit-stops like Malaysia 2013, but I also believe Verstappen will ignore team orders if they're in place.
     
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  18. Il_leone

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    Clay At the moment Verstappen is over hyped and yet to be display championship consistency and at the same time they were some people who were trying to write off Ricciardo on the basis he is getting whooped because he has not outqualified Verstappen for about 10 races
    I don't think people give Ricciardo enough credit . What is shows is Verstappen has the baseline raw speed but he does not yet have the nous and astuteness to prepare himself for the crunch moments

    Verstappen is blaming engine break down and other various problems even if its less than ideal the best drivers learn to overcome these problems to come out on top . Ricciardo had an engine issue as well in practice but he managed to put it together right at the end
     
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  19. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    The gap is less than 0.03 seconds, it would be difficult to even point out where Verstappen lost the time to Ricciardo and no one has been whooped only because he didn't manage to get pole. Both drove astounding laps to beat the Mercedes and Ferrari, and since 2016 Red Bull has had the strongest driver line-up and they showed that yesterday.
    I don't see a lack of astuteness and nous with a gap that small. Improving on an already good lap is much more difficult than improving on a bad lap.
     
  20. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    Well it won’t be Ricciardo in the lead in turn 2.
     
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  21. Chasz

    Chasz Points Scorer

    Dan has opened up a real can of whooparse on Verstappen!
     

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