Grand Prix 2018 French Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

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  1. olegg

    olegg Race Winner

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  3. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    But don't you reckon it's a track where aero isn't critical?
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  4. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Alonso out in Q1, oh dear what a shame, why don’t you leave the sport?
    Kimi blows Q3 again. Seeya, it’s been... long.
    Le Clerc into Q3, excellent, get in that red car.
    Max beat Danny, tick.
    Dominant Mercedes, congrats I guess. Is this the start of a dominant period? Looks ominous.
    Don’t like this track, looks horrible on TV and you hardly ever see the fans, they look miles away from the track.

    Boo.
     
  5. rufus_mcdufus

    rufus_mcdufus Champion Elect

    This track gives me a migraine. They must have sat down and thought for a joke "what's the most repellent decoration we can use for the run-off areas?". It probably inspired this -

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  6. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    They're using the thinner gauge Pirellis this weekend, as at Catalunya, so the Mercs are likely to be benefiting from that in addition to their new powerplants.
     
  7. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    True but in their defence this wasnt ever built for an f1 race & that run off is because when testing you dont want gravel trap or short run offs to reduce any times you have to test
     
  8. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    Also just went on my accuweather. For the circuit it has yellow warnings for thunderstorms til monday morning. Although i dont really trust it, because its hardly brilliant at times, because last week it said thunderstorms but i looked out of the window & it was blue skies
     
  9. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    Jennie Gow tweeted that there is a threat of thunderstorms. That will spice things up I bet. Though we all know storms are hit and miss, they could get a deluge of rain, or they might get nothing. I vote for a well timed deluge ;)

    The track isn't good for me either, then again nor is Austen.
     
  10. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #dejavu Valued Member

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    It's not designed to host Grands Prix. It's current iteration is that of a high-performance test track: it is holding a Grand Prix because Liberty needed a French Grand Prix because they're not diminutive and obnoxious. Paul Ricard was the best option.
     
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  11. Dartman

    Dartman Points Scorer

    Titch,
    Yes, but you can change the dish to a 90cm one, still use the Sky LNB in the new arm and add the Astra1 arm, depends where you live and your view to the satellites the dish doesn't always have to be on the roof. Trees and other building though sometimes necessitates a higher mounting.
     
  12. Ruslan

    Ruslan Rookie

    That is what I am guessing....so therefore I would assume that the teams would be closer together....not further apart.
     
  13. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    Well it was mainly about aero today, I think.
     
  14. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Aerodynamic efficiency has two main elements on an F1 car, downforce and drag. The most efficient cars produce more downforce for less drag. The two least efficient cars on the grid, hence those with most drag, are the Williams and McLaren hence why they were slowest.

    Oh, and what a crap race.
     
  15. Il_leone

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    A good measure is if you compare the factory teams and the customer teams taking out the engines and tyres, the only difference comes down to the performance of the chassis

    Red Bull still miles ahead of the other two Renault engine teams

    Ferrari still clear of its customers Haas and Sauber

    Mercedes - the factory team is out the front , one of its customers is at the back with the same engine and the gap is 3 seconds
     
  16. Il_leone

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    FB I think RasputinLives suggestion that engine suppliers needed to be independent from teams makes sense because the 3 teams in front are all benefitting from full factory engine benefits ( well Red Bull to a lesser extent)
     
  17. Ruslan

    Ruslan Rookie

    Well, an interesting race...but not a particularly exciting one. A few observations:

    1. Hamilton walked off comfortably to another win. He seems to have perfected this. Maintains a 2-3 second gap for the first 20 or so laps, making us wonder is something is wrong, and then as the car lightens, drives off to a safe distance.
    2. How many people did Vettel hit? Three? Certainly it was lively watching him run back up the pack.
    3. Raikonnen suddenly came alive late in the race and took third. Maybe he should race that way all the time.
    4. Bottas is cursed. I still don't think he should really have the second seat at Mercedes, but he is certainly having enough back luck this year.
    5. Grosjean is cursed....although it was mostly his own doing this time. Still does not have any points this season.
    6. Verstappen, Ricciardo, Magnussen, Sainz, Hulkenberg all drove good races.
    7. Ricciardo better sign a contract soon, as it appears that Verstappen is coming back on form, and it is not going to make Ricciardo look as good.
    8. Leclerc is really something else.
    9. There was lots of passing in lots of different places on the track, not just the DRS zones. Nice to see.
    10. Will Mercedes have the edge in the next two races? If so, I fear the championship will slip out of reach of Vettel.
    11. Where were the marbles? Were the tires so hard that we did not get a lot of them, making passing later in the race possible? If so....maybe the answer for now on is really hard tires.

    Finally, it was nice to have Paul Ricard back. I missed it. Not my favorite track, but it feels like it belongs.
     
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  18. gethinceri

    gethinceri Daniil Kvyat Fan. Contributor

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    Nice summary Ruslan
    I would love to see some data on your point 9 though. The overtaking stats will be interesting as I can’t remember any more than 5 that weren’t DRS assists outside of lap one.
     
  19. rufus_mcdufus

    rufus_mcdufus Champion Elect

    There seemed to be two types of overtakes - DRS passes, where DRS seemed to be really (a bit too) effective. The second was wide corner passes, where it looks like the driver in front decided for some reason to try and cover by taking the outside line, leaving a nice open door for the overtaker on the inside. Quite a few times it looked like the driver in front was just leaving a really obvious open door.
     
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  20. Clay

    Clay Test Driver

    He's been equal to Hamilton so far this season, if not slightly better. What more do people want to see from him, some trash talking like Hamilton did whilst Rosberg was his teammate. He's quite a bore outside of the car, but at least he's no stick in the mud like Raikkonen.
     
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  21. Angel

    Angel Points Scorer Supporter

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    Not the most exciting race. As a Vettel fan I was disappointed with his mistake, but he did as well as he could to minimise it by getting back up to 5th. Another awesome drive by Leclerc, I was pleased he got a point from it. Raikkonen suddenly found some form and did well to get a podium out of it too.
    Bottas, I did feel marginally sorry for him, as I did for Gasly and Ocon, these incidents happen in racing though. My cousin races an Austen A35 in the HRDC series and he's had crashes that weren't his fault either, sometimes these things just happen.

    Austria next, a track where Hamilton doesn't usually go that well as I recall. Will it be enough for Vettel to claw back some points against him? Geez, I hope so!!!!!
     

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