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Grand Prix 2017 Hungarian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Grand Prix Discussions' started by RasputinLives, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. The Artist.....

    The Artist..... Champion Elect

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    ... And Alonso set fastest lap of the race!
     
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  3. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Pole Sitter

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    Uneventful 1st half but 2nd half was very interesting Hungarian GP with how it panned out. Probably 2nd slowest driver in top 5 won the race which was bit strange, tough ferrari as i know why they have done it. they were thinking about the championship. but i really feel for Kimi because as i said i know the reason but as both Monaco & Hungary proved. Ferrari would rather lose than let kimi win

    Max Verstappen was completely at fault fell into the trap of being goaded into braking later on the 1st lap trying to be a 1st lap hero. but as brundle always says you cant win it on 1st but you can lose it, actually come to think of it he's had a poor season probably Verstappen have poorest of big 3 teams season compared to pre season expectations but then that has been either the car has let Verstappen down or he has let himself down through silly mistakes like today. Without making excuses for the guy we've discussed this on many of an occasion & his fantastic drives over the last 3 years have gave us unrealistic expectations as we should expect these mistakes / inconsistencies . as we have to remember prior to debut for toro rosso he had only been in single seater for 12mths & had 11 race distances spilt into 3 short races of euro F3 with cars that 17secs slower a lap than F1

    kimi quote of "if cant see a blue light then he should stay in commentary box" was very funny although going be awkward at the next grand prix. if di resta has to interview kimi LOL
     
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  4. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Kimi Raikkonen has no complaints with Ferrari approach after Hungarian GP

    Interestingly Kimi decides to play the team line right before contract announcements a race he probably could have won if it were not for the circuit
     
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  5. LifeW12

    LifeW12 Podium Finisher

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    this race might have seen a record of non-DRS passes for 2017
     
  6. Incubus

    Incubus Champion Elect

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    Mildly amusing differing opinions between M Brundle and JB on twitter on the subject of Alonso's deckchair antics...


    1. Martin Brundle‏Verified account @MBrundleF1 12h12 hours ago


      Martin Brundle Retweeted Jenson Button

      My point JB is that Fernando is not a comedy act under a podium full of Ferrari/Merc drivers,he deserves to be up there fighting for champs

      Martin Brundle added,


      Jenson ButtonVerified account @JensonButton
      Replying to @MBrundleF1
      Totally agree Martin, how dare an F1 driver have a personality and bring fun to a sport that sometimes takes itself way too seriously [​IMG]
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    2. [​IMG] Martin Brundle‏Verified account @MBrundleF1 17h17 hours ago



      Alonso prob better than 3 guys on podium. Sad he's joking in a deck chair, waste of talent and reminds team bosses why they don't want him
     
  7. rufus_mcdufus

    rufus_mcdufus Race Winner

    I agree with both of them. They seem to be arguing different things though.
     
  8. The Pits

    The Pits Harumph. Again. Valued Member

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    I've worked it out!!

    When Max and Danny were talking before the race, Danny said that he was looking forward to dong a Shoey. Max had been watching replays of previous Hungarian GP's, and got the wrong idea.
     
  9. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives I was never cool at school. Contributor

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    Things I learnt from the Grand Prix.

    1 - A Verstappen Torpedo is completely accidental, excusable and understandable to media and team alike - in complete contrast to a the Kvyat brand of Torpedo

    2 - Ferrari not letting Kimi past Seb when he has car issues is an out cry and proves he is number 2 driver. However if Kimi had been in front of Seb and had car issues and Ferrari had let Seb through there would have been an outcry and it would have proven Kimi was a number 2 driver.

    3 - Lewis Hamilton had a good sense of honour.

    4 - if you mess with his team mate (Hulkenberg on Grosjean at the start) then KMag will come for you (he even said it on radio at the start).

    5 - The Force India drivers are incapable of not being on the same piece of race track.

    6 - Sky F1 aren't going to let the actual facts get in the way of a 'brilliant Di Resta comeback' story.
     
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  10. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    I wonder what response Vettel will say to Verstappen next after MAx said he does not take notice of people who bash into other cars :oops:
     
  11. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Incubus Maybe someone should have retweeted that comment to the 3 drivers on the podium and the Ferrari and Mercedes teams
     
  12. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    RasputinLives Since when did Red Bull take an interest in Subway?
     
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    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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  14. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #bringbackmaldo Valued Member

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    It was evidence of what can be achieved with a fully compliant second driver.
     
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    Kimi has about 10 million reasons to do as he's told.
     
  16. The Pits

    The Pits Harumph. Again. Valued Member

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    Although there is scant evifence to suggest the results would have been impacted by non complicity. Hamilton was unable to pass Kimi despite the kimis pace neing dictated. Almost like Monaco 2011.
     
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  17. Incubus

    Incubus Champion Elect

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    I think the main lesson from this race from a general point of view is that on this type of circuit at least drivers are finding it more impossible than ever to follow each other. Throughout the race we saw drivers unabkle to even get within less than 1.5 sec of the car in front even wwhen they were potentially whole seconds per lap quicker..
     
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  18. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    If this had been Silverstone , Kimi would have blasted past Vettel on the Hangar straight

    Kimi's best 3 races have Monaco, Silverstone and Budapest this season

    Two of those seems to be when the Ferrari is the fastest car where he is closer to Vettel. Silverstone he has always gone well on and the next race Spa is another track where he has great record as well so be interesting to see if he is close to Vettel whether he will be compliant again when he says he has more pace given the circuit is much more easier to pass

    Hungaroring is one of those annoying circuits " Monaco without the walls!" - unfortunately given the nature of the circuit you can form a queue behind by maintaining track position
     
  19. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    FB that do you that is still cheaper than 50 million reasons they use to pay him then 28 million reasons if he did not drive for another team:facepalm:
     
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  20. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #bringbackmaldo Valued Member

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    When Hamilton got into the DRS window, Raikkonen simply pulled to within a second of Vettel to negate the advantage.

    I suspect Vettel was vulnerable without Raikkonen as the stopper in the bottle.
     
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  21. The Pits

    The Pits Harumph. Again. Valued Member

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    Possibly.

    I recall significant periods where Kimi was more than a second behind, but hadclewis in drs. Not prolonged periods granted.

    With overtaking in single figures though, its not much of a stretch to think it would have been ok.
     

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