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Poll 2017 CTA Driver of the year

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by F1Brits_90, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. F1Brits_90

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    F1 team bosses reveal their top 10 drivers of 2017
     
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  3. F1Brits_90

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    that is a valid point if he was Maldonado or kyvat & kept crashing. but out of his 7 retirements, i cant see 1 DNF in whole season that was his fault

    Bahrain - Brake Failure
    Spain - DNF, as not given enough room collision with kimi & bottas
    Canada - Electrical issue with power unit
    Azerbaijan - Oil pressure issue with power unit
    Austria - Taken out by kvyat
    Belgium - Engine Blew
    Singapore - Taken out by vettel
     
  4. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #bringbackmaldo Valued Member

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    Verstappen vs Ricciardo basically didn’t happen, as it would have required a significant sample of races where both either finished, or started in their actual qualifying positions.
     
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  5. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    More proof that the car is vastly more important than the driver:

    F1 overtakes drop by almost 50 per cent
     
  6. F1Brits_90

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    thought with a fortnight gone on poll. id give an update on the provisional standings of CTA Driver of the year. provisional mainly because i was thinking about keeping it open for rest of the 2017. incase anyone else would like to take part & i have double checked it just kept updating

    Driver - total - nominations

    1) L Hamilton - 225 (9)
    2) M Verstappen - 159 (9)
    3) D Ricciardo - 130 (8)
    4) S Vettel - 106 (8)
    5) F Alonso - 54 (6)
    6) V Bottas - 44 (6)
    7) E Ocon - 38 (6)
    8) C Sainz - 20 (6)
    9) N Hulkenberg - 11 (3)
    10) S Perez - 8 (2)
    11) K Raikkonen - 6 (3)
    12) F Massa - 5 (3)
    13) S Vandoorne - 2 (1)
     
  7. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives I was never cool at school. Contributor

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    I genuinely Don't understand how people can judge that Alonso was that good. With the Mclaren the way it was there is no reference point for him other than Vandoorne and to be honest he didn't thrash Vandoorne did he?
     
  8. F1Brits_90

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    for me i think its because of his qualifying performances because for the majority he wasn't able to finish the race. but that 7th (lmp2 pole) in spain outqualifying the likes of perez & Williams with the mercedes engine. was impressive

    but i rate vandoorne & next yr will be more improved but qualy stats dont help 1st time alonso was outqualified was britain (then italy Malaysia) & for the most of it. it was 1/2 sec gap
     
  9. Rutherford

    Rutherford Points Scorer

    He was brilliant in the Indy500 until he had to retire.

    He was ahead of Ricciardo in all of those races with the exception of Austria, when he retired.
     
  10. sobriety

    sobriety Podium Finisher

    Qualifying and the opening laps were where Alonso stood out, dragging the car into places it had no right to be, then dicing like crazy from the start until the battery got depleted and he became a sitting duck....

    I'm not a fan of him, but he's a bloody good driver.
     
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  11. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives I was never cool at school. Contributor

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    Anyone know on average how many positions Vandorne qualified behind Alonso?
     
  12. gethinceri

    gethinceri "suck my balls honey" Contributor

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    Can you show your workings? Some have provided top 10 and some top 3; how have you scored them?
     
  13. Rutherford

    Rutherford Points Scorer

    Yes, here you go:
    2017 Teammate comparisons
     
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  14. RasputinLives

    RasputinLives I was never cool at school. Contributor

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    2 places then. Which is not huge if we're saying Alonso was putting that Mclaren places it shouldn't be. If Alonso truly was putting that Mclaren places it shouldn't have been shouldn't we be bigging up Vandoorne, a rookie, in the polls a bit more too?
     
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  15. F1Brits_90

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    i put it at the very start. top 10 in will be like an f1 race. 1st gets 25pts 10th gets 1pt & after everyones voted driver with most points. is 2017 CTA Driver of the year

    so i took everybodys top 10 or sometimes top 3 votes & translated that to 25 18 15 12 etc. from everyones votes
     
  16. gethinceri

    gethinceri "suck my balls honey" Contributor

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    So if I post my 4-10 you'll be able to add those?
    Edit* I placed Button 4th, you haven't counted those points.
     
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  17. F1Brits_90

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    but if you look at the qualifying times themselves 9 times out of 19 alonso was 1/2second quicker than vandoorne
     
  18. F1Brits_90

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    i will be yes no problem. & yeah i rrealised i forgot button but put provisional because i havent double checked by updated total against recaluation. hope thats everything :D :thumbsup:
     
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  19. Il_leone

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    There was the fantastic starts where he made loads of places and he still showed despite the power deficit he was still racy then there was at least more than one occasion when he was around the top 10 or just outside in the earlier GPS and usually the engine expired predictably
     
  20. RasputinLives

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    Yeah bit the average gap over the season was 0.291 - which was less than between the two Merc drivers.

    One of the Mclaren drivers is a experienced two times world champions who has a number one status whilst the other is a rookie who is grateful for being there. With the gap so small in both quali and points I think you either have to conclude they both did amazing or they both didn't.

    There is of course the third option - that the media has told us so often that Alonso is doing an amazing job that we all buy it. In Abu Dhabi Ted Kravitz came on the commentary during q1 to tell MB and Crofty that Alonso was really out driving the car and was having an amazing session. I looked over at the times and Vandoorne was 8 tenths quicker than him at that point.
     
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  21. Rutherford

    Rutherford Points Scorer

    RasputinLives Does it surprise you? It’s the same guy who kept saying that Palmer was keeping up with Hülkenberg. I still don’t have a clue what timing sheets he was looking at throughout the season... and why Renault released when he was doing so good.

    Vandoorne wasn’t on Alonso’s level at the beginning of the season and that is mostly down to the many reliability issues and thus, limited track time he had. Of course, an experienced driver will have an easier time adjusting to the car than a rookie.
    As the season progressed however, Vandoorne managed to significantly reduce the gap to Alonso from .420 secs after Hungary to .291 secs at the end of the season.
    I put Alonso in 7th in my ranking, because it’s difficult to judge drivers in the midfield as it is so close. Whilst each car does have its strengths and weaknesses of different tracks the McLaren seemed the most consistent of the midfield cars, be it in the hands of Alonso or later Vandoorne.
     
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