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Poll 2017 CTA Driver of the year

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by F1Brits_90, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Pole Sitter

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    i remember this being popular & controversial poll in last season. when if i remember correctly Daniel Riccardio won the 2016 poll & was our forums driver of the year. so lets have a 2nd yr, how you get your top 10 doesnt matter, it can be top 10 in championship or the top 10 pound for pound

    guess top 10 in will be like an f1 race. 1st gets 25pts 10th gets 1pt & after everyones voted driver with most points. is 2017 CTA Driver of the year :D:thumbsup:
     
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  3. gethinceri

    gethinceri "suck my balls honey" Contributor

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    Too difficult, here are my top three, I can’t be arsed to do a top ten:
    cHamilton
    Thestrapon
    Ricciardo
     
  4. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Hammy
    MAX
    Seb

    No one else matters
     
  5. Rutherford

    Rutherford Points Scorer

    Hamilton
    Verstappen
    Ricciardo
    Vettel
    Bottas
    Ocon
    Alonso
    Perez
    Hulkenberg
    Sainz
     
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  6. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Pole Sitter

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    1st - Hamilton - world champion & post summer break unstoppable, espically in qualifying monza & Malaysia come to mind

    2nd - Verstappen - dominant mexico win. maybe couldve been in title contention of he hadnt had such atrocious reliability bad luck in many races & when got the chance was main opposition to lewis & seb

    3rd - Ricciardo - got many podiums & baku victory. in what at the time was a 3rd best car. stunning overtakes & consistently 7/10 every weekend

    4th - Vettel - was a major contender lead into summer break. arguably shouldve won title but as good lewis was it his stupidity in singapore cost him. not merc pace

    5th - Alonso - performed miracles in that with such a honda deficit to get it in Q3 many times huge achievement. with better relability dark horse for 2018 title

    6th - Ocon - outperformed his much more experienced teammate. running in the top 5 many times better luck couldve won in baku & got a podium in mexico. big talent in future dare i say future world champ

    7th - Bottas - 3 wins looked good but tailed off drastically from Austria to Mexico & thrashed, at times a minute behind Lewis

    8th - Sainz - very impressive yet again. showing he was going stale & held back in junior team. impressive debut in austin, excited to see him & hulk in 2018

    9th - Massa - when looking at the stats did alot a better than i thought, impressive in final 2 races

    10th - Raikkonen - been poor but glimpse of old kimi magic witj monaco pole lap scrapes him in, amongst not much competition. horrible to say should be replaced. he nowhere near driver he used to be
     
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  7. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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    ^^^^ what he said.
     
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  8. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Pole Sitter

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    always nice, although not used to people agreeing with my opinions :goodday:LOL

    although interesting that from the 5 votes Everyone has voted Lewis 1st & Max 2nd
     
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  9. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    1. Hamilton - unbeatable since the summer break and destroyed his teammate in the process
    2. Verstappen - fearless but ultimately the year never got going with so many retirements
    3. Ricciardo - just kept delivering the results for Red Bull and kept putting the car on the podium when there was a chance
    4. Vettel - looked good until a moment of madness in Baku. Threw away the title with probably an ill advised decision to chop Verstappen in Singapore

    5. Ocon - Mr Consistency - expect him to be Mercedes driver by 2019 possibly
    6. Alonso - F1 needs him back at the front fighting. Kept putting the Mclaren into higher positions than he ought to be. His efforts at the start were constantly wasted by the useless Honda engine
    7. Bottas - 3 wins and 3 poles represents a very good return for his 1st year but was overshadowed by the superior speed and consistency of Hamilton
    8. Sainz - this man does deserve better than the car he got. Lets hope Renault next season can only allow to him deliver
    9. Vandoorne - took a while to get going but when the car got better was able to show his ability in Singapore and Malaysia
    10. Hulkenberg - made the move from Force India to Renault based on long term prospects. Immediately disposed of Palmer in becoming team leader and held his own well against Sainz after given an initial wakening call

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    Not quite the top 10

    Raikkonen - unfortunately the old Kimi is no longer there and his race pace is lacking . A subservient No 2 which is ideal for Vettel but his consistency is not there

    Perez - Beat Ocon which he needed to but he did look rattled at times when trying to prove himself against his teammate and proving to everyone he deserves a top drive

    Massa - based on Brazil you'd think he still has it but generally there were signs he was waning so had to go

    Going nowhere

    Magnussen - once touted as a potential hot property in F1 -- Melbourne 2014 seems a long time now .. he ended up just about :censored:off every driver like Alonso says

    Grosjean - he has not done enough for Ferrari to consider him and his moaning does not seem to hel either. Seems to be often a hapless victim of accidents or expected to be the first one other than Lance Stroll to have one I can't decide. Issue is the boat may have sailed for him now unless Haas come up with a really great car which I can't see happening

    Wehrlein - well being a loudmouth has not helped his reputation with anyone outside Mercedes and now could be on the sidelines whilst watching his rival Ocon steal his career path

    Kyvat - What do you when you've been kicked to the kerb so many times like he has by Red Bull?
     
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  10. gethinceri

    gethinceri "suck my balls honey" Contributor

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    4. Button.
     
  11. Titch

    Titch Mine is the best pink car on the track. Premium Contributor

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    Danny Ricciardo
     
  12. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    How on earth can you decide who is the better between Hamilton in a fast, easy to drive car against, say, Grosjean who was in a much slower and much more difficult car to drive? And how can Il_leone say that Bottas was destroyed when he won the last race, managing the gap to Hamilton by putting in a quicker lap each time that he got close to DRS distance?

    In my opinion the following drivers could have won the WDC had they been the number one driver at Mercedes.

    Hamilton
    Bottas
    Vettel
    Raikonnen
    Ricciardo
    Verstappen
    Hulkenberg
    Sainz
    Alonso
    Ocon
    Perez
    Grosjean
    Button
    Vandoorne
    Wehrlein

    with others as possibilities.
     
  13. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Pole Sitter

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    thats the great thing about opinions, there is no wrong answer it how you personally feel after 20 races. how we all think the drivers did under performing or over performing. Bottas has been unlucky this season you could say because he had a top form lewis to cope with but on that list you can discount at least 5 of them. I don't see how you include kimi in that list, Perez has been average compared to 2015/16. grosjean just moaned all year & bottas has had the same machinery

    Hamilton
    Bottas
    Vettel
    Raikonnen
    Ricciardo
    Verstappen
    Hulkenberg
    Sainz
    Alonso
    Ocon

    Perez
    Grosjean
    Button
    Vandoorne

    Wehrlein
     
  14. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    But Bottas was told that he was the number 2 driver. That raises questions about whether he really had the "same machinery" and whether he was truly allowed to compete until the WDC was decided. Normally, being give number 2 status would mean the answer to both of those questions would be NO.
     
  15. vintly

    vintly Mostly bacon Premium Contributor

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    Bottas unlucky??? He got the Mercedes drive didn’t he?
     
  16. Wombcat

    Wombcat Podium Finisher

    If Bottas was truly a nr. 2 driver from the start, why did Hamilton have to switch places with him in Hungary in the last lap after he first was let by to try to attack the Ferraris?
    That would never have happened with a nr.2 driver.

    I don't think Bottas was a nr. 2 driver, but was given equal chances. At least until Monza.
     
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  17. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Bill Boddy For those 6 races from Spa to Interlagos.. Hamilton was by far the quicker driver . If not destroyed then more than often outpaced by a significant margin

    Bottas is 3rd partly because the other Finn has been not as good in the other Ferrari
     
  18. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    I doubt that Grosjean moaned nearly as much as Alonso did.
     
  19. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Pole Sitter

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    i never get the 2nd driver thing because apart from Ferrari they want 2 drivers going for the title to win constructors & really this preferinal treatment only rears its head when teammate is thrashing the other. because how come we never got this in 2014 15 16 with rosberg & while verstappen has been at red bull ive havent heard of preferinal treatment either
     
  20. 1. Lewis Hamilton
    2. Max Verstappen
    3. Sebastian Vettel
     
  21. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Grosjean was told to stop complaining over the radio by his boss
     

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