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Featured Grand Prix 2017 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Formula One Discussion' started by Titch, Jul 30, 2017.

  1. Titch

    Titch Mine is the best pink car on the track. Premium Contributor

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    As F1 moves into the summer break, Ferrari are firmly in the lead, and Mercedes must be feeling just a little worried.Their supremacy is definitely being threatened, and so the Belgian Grand Prix (Spa-Francorchamps) will be crucial for them if they are to win this years Constructors and drivers championships. Crucial for Ferrari as well.

    If Spa is famous for anything it's the unpredictable nature of the race, courtesy of the weather. Frequently one part of the track can be sunny and dry, whilst just round the corner it's raining, quite a challenge for drivers. But despite the difficulties, or maybe because of them, Spa is popular with drivers and fans alike.
    Spa started life running on public narrow roads, between three different villages, but by 1983 it had become, more or less, the track we know now. A mix of long straights and fast corners and the longest F1 circuit on the F1 calendar.
    Kimi Raikkonen has had four wins at Spa, and certainly has the car to do so again, but I can't really see that happening. His team mate however, with two wins at Spa, and who is hungry for the WDC, will present a very strong challenge.
    McLaren have had a lot of past success at Spa. So Alonso for the win. Well no. Whilst I think we are all glad to see some small improvement in Team McLaren, it has a long, long way to go before it wins races, going flat out through the Eau Rouge - Radillon sequence and still being in the race will be an achievement, although in fairness Alonso did finish in 6th positioning Hungary.
    This is a circuit where you don't have to qualify on pole to win the race, so we should see some overtaking. Hamilton take note, a poor qualifying will mean some real racing, which to be fair he seems to enjoy.
    Obviously the top three teams, Ferrari Mercedes and Red Bull should do well. This is almost Max Verstappens home race, so we should see a very orange crowd of fans, lets hope in his enthusiasm to impress he doesn't take out all three top teams.Danni Ricciardo is only 1 point ahead of Kimi Raikkonen as of now, and that could be a fight worth watching, if Kimi can be bothered.
    Force India, pretty in pink, are doing a steady job as the lead team of the mid-field, it would be good to see a more exciting driver in one of their seats IMO. After that it's a steep curve down to Williams and the Torro Rosso. Renault, Haas, McLaren and Sauber are all struggling for points. Sauber have only 5.
    But the fickle nature of the circuits weather may have the final say, just take a look at the first lap shunt in 1998, thirteen cars were involved in that, it was total chaos.
     
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  3. Galahad

    Galahad Not a Moderator Valued Member

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    Very tight for 5th at this stage:

    5. Williams 41
    6. Toro Rosso 39
    7. Haas 29
    8. Renault 26
    9. McLaren 11
    (10. Sauber 5 - can safely ignore!)

    Plenty of scope for Renault and McLaren to move up, you'd think, if they can maintain an upward curve. Two decent drivers wouldn't hurt, either.
     
  4. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel Pirelli's Fault Valued Member

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    Well, should be a Mercedes win all day long, even if conditions are wet. Vettel's chances in the title race absolutely depend now on how many points he can salvage from these two races. He's fourteen ahead in the title race, if he's level at Singapore then he's done very, very well.
     
  5. Titch

    Titch Mine is the best pink car on the track. Premium Contributor

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    I would have expected Williams to be closer to Force India and contesting 4th not 5th Galahad. It's disappointing.

    Mercedes should win teabagyokel , but they seem to have lost something, or maybe Vettel has found an extra 10% from inside his head. Hamilton needs to get into the same frame of mind. Bottas however, is a very dark horse.
     
  6. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    The circuit lends itself to the power of the Mercs with the long straights and fast corners

    It will be interesting to see if Red Bull have improved even further aerodynamically to be challenging the front two. I am expecting Mclaren now to start battling Renault who have the 4th fastest car , Williams and Force India

    Toro Rosso will be probably be mixing with Haas whilst SAuber bring up the rear
     
  7. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel Pirelli's Fault Valued Member

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    They qualified half a second clear of the field at Silverstone. They'll be alright at Spa.
     
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  8. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    The long straights will be too much for the Ferrari's - I hope they mind their manners at the first corner after tangling with each other last year
     
  9. gethinceri

    gethinceri "suck my balls honey" Contributor

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    If it's wet on the grid with 5 mins to go Bernd Maylander will be first to the end of Kemmel.
     
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  10. Greenlantern101

    Greenlantern101 Super Hero And All Round Good Guy Contributor

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  11. gethinceri

    gethinceri "suck my balls honey" Contributor

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    I can't wait!
    Hang on, yes I can.....F1 is no longer my priority sport.
     
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  12. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    Same here. The wife even noticed it earlier in the season. I never thought I'd lose my F1 mojo but sadly its long gone.
     
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  13. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Titch

    I am surprised Williams aint 8th or 9th to be honest given they have the weakest driver line up on the grid and seem a bit directionless in terms of what they really want to achieve
     

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