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Grand Prix 2017 Bahrain Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Grand Prix Discussions' started by FB, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Bottas made one error whilst trying to get heat into his tyres on a damp track. Didn't Vettel do something similar which peed off Mark Webber?
     
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  3. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Both Ferrari and Mercedes No 2 drivers are performing badly to their teammates and they both are occupying seats coveted by everyone else not in a Merc or a Ferrari

    Yes Bottas made an amateurish error but we've yet to see him race wheel to wheel with the other cars so lets hold off until mid season or so when we can see his relative pace
     
  4. Rutherford

    Rutherford Points Scorer

    We have also seen Vettel spin off on the last lap of the Canadian Grand Prix. Bottas has had plenty of good performances negated by Williams's strategy and he has been a very consistent driver in his career until now.
     
  5. FB

    FB Not my cup of cake Valued Member

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    Fascinating engineering although I struggle to see applications beyond an F1 car.

    Ferrari brings major upgrade to Bahrain GP
     
  6. siffert_fan

    siffert_fan Too old to watch the Asian races live. Contributor

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    Then how do you explain the last three seasons?

    Apparently you believe that Rosberg and Hamilton are the two greatest drivers of all time, as that is the only way to account for the total domination of Mercedes. It also means that Alonso and Button must be complete rubbish given how poorly they did over that time span.
     
  7. olegg

    olegg Race Winner

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  8. Rutherford

    Rutherford Points Scorer

    One does have to differentiate, if a car is notably faster than those of the competition it is obviously not only down to the driver how well he performs in comparison to the others but the Mercedes inter team battle also proved that the driver makes the difference because Hamilton regularly out qualified Rosberg by 0.3 sec. sometimes even 1/2 sec..
    This also holds true for the battle between Bianchi vs. Chilton (2012- 2013), Vettel vs. Webber (2010- 2013), Alonso vs. Massa (2010- 2013), Schumacher vs. Barrichello (2000- 2004), Senna vs. Hill (1994), Prost vs. Hill (1993), Mansell vs. Patrese (1992).
    Whether or not a car is dominant due to technical innovations, an inter team battle provides a solid foundation to prove that the driver makes the difference.
     
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  9. Titch

    Titch Mine is the best pink car on the track. Premium Contributor

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    Other than watching the cars on track, which is always fun, you can't really tell a lot from P1. You can maybe spot a team that is falling apart, but mostly they are out doing testing stuff. Nothing really stood out today.
     
  10. cider_and_toast

    cider_and_toast Everything in moderation Staff Member Premium Contributor

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    I swear, having read the article on Ferrari's upgrades, that I found it utterly boring.

    "Ferrari have upgraded their front wing by moving the left upper slot right and reversing the lower left slot right up on the reverse side of the upper lower left face of the inner........zzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

    I know its not helped by my current malaise regarding all things F1 but is that really all we have left to be excited about? Slots and holes?

    I bought 3 old copies of motorsport from the 70's in a junk shop for 60p today. Reading the technical reports in those magazines is such a nice refresher.
     
  11. Rutherford

    Rutherford Points Scorer

    Tell us about them, we want to know what they wrote about.
     
  12. teabagyokel

    teabagyokel #bringbackmaldo Valued Member

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    Titch - P1 is particularly pathetic run in the day for a night race! Conditions scarcely resemble any competitive running.
     
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  13. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Bill Boddy Vettel has made a lot of amateurish errors and smashing into other drivers not just Webber...
     
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  14. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Somehow BBC managed to spell my twitter name wrong asking about F1 cameos:facepalm: via twitter
     
  15. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Jolyon Palmer - are there any supporters for him ? The gap between and Hulkenberg has been over 1 second in the last two practice sessions which is worrying for him. Oliver Rowland is waiting in the wings.
     
  16. gethinceri

    gethinceri "suck my balls honey" Contributor

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    He's di Resta.
    A shame, I like him.
     
  17. olegg

    olegg Race Winner

    Third practice
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  18. Il_leone

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    I was expecting improvement from Jolyon but it is worrying there is already this massive gap between him and Hulkenberg consistently
     
  19. Rutherford

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    Il_leone I'm sure he is having an issue with the car, again.

    He simply can handle it, the same issue he had last season. LOL
     
  20. Il_leone

    Il_leone Race Winner

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    Carlos Sainz - how unlucky can you get ?

    What a lap from Hulkenberg ... that podium is coming soon
     
  21. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    Why do they have FP1 and FP3 at a time when the track temperature can be as much as 25 degrees C higher than in the race? Either make it a night weekend or a daytime one like Singapore for heaven's sake.
     

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